• Jumper775@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    You’re an extremist, and wrong. We personally don’t need to see anything in our lives change. Politicians need to force electric cars, better charging infrastructure, nuclear energy and and we will survive.

    • HardlightCereal@lemmy.worldOP
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      1 year ago

      But politicians aren’t forcing those things. You can’t just cross your fingers and pray for someone to save you.

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        1 year ago

        If we can’t just assume politicians are going to push what we say how are you saying that it’s feasible to ban cars?

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          I’ll protest on the streets and I’ll block the freeways until the only way to resume the world is for politicians to choose sustainability, and if that doesn’t work I’ll pull out my keys and I’ll make owning a car more difficult myself.

      • CeruleanRuin@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        Yes, but also recycling your weekly twelve pack of cans isn’t going to do a thing against the forces we’re facing.

        You could reduce your own footprint to nothing and plant a hundred trees yourself, and if you get a hundred or a thousand others to do the same it still will never be enough so long as the actual titans are still fouling up the water and air.

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      1 year ago

      Come on. Electric cars? Same shit different smell. It’s not going to solve the problem at all due to battery disposal problems and traffic jams. You still have to park it somewhere to and from. Private transport in city centres are a waste of money. Infrastructure in dense populations should be focused on accessible public transport, cycling and walking infrastructure.

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        1 year ago

        These problems you cited do not contribute to climate change. The vast majority of it is factories and cars and energy. Making those sustainable is enough.

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          1 year ago

          I respectfully disagree. We have millions, if not billions of private vehicles on the roads right now. If we transition to EVs, there will be millions of batteries that currently have no way they can be recycled and will likely go to landfill. Landfill becomes a toxic waste dump. Toxic waste has huge ecological impacts, which affect climate.

          Additionally, parking spaces take up valuable room that could be changed to parks or areas of re-wilding, allowing for eco systems to take root which builds up resilience against climate change.

          Private transport is a luxury and not a requirement. The only reason why it’s a requirement is because of a serious lack of other infrastructure.

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            1 year ago

            Infrastructure investment for battery recycling absolutely should be a part of the retooling, but the impact of batteries slowly leeching into the soil is nowhere near the ongoing harm caused by fossil fuels right now.

            Your worry is a valid one, but it is vastly out of proportion when put next to the very real damage already happening. And it can be mitigated.

    • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net
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      1 year ago

      We’re gonna need a lot more than nukes and electric cars, my dude. The extremists are the ones who want to keep the status quo.