• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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      Like when people say it was over “states rights” but ignore the Feds sided with state’s rights, and the South was the one arguing for a stronger federal government.

      The Southern states though they had the “right” to force northern states to return escaped slaves.

      Not over if slavery was legal, but over if a slave was still a slave in a state that outlawed slavery.

      But I don’t even think you read the last comment if you had to ask that

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        So long story short… essentially the right they wanted to have was the right to enslave people. Dress it up all you want but a rose by any other name is still a rose.

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          No. The states and the Feds all agreed on their right to own slaves and nothing was going to interfere with that “right”.

          It’s not dressing it up. It makes everyone look worse…

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        Is that really a big difference? The point is the south wanted their slaves and they rebelled against the north to keep them

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          Is that really a big difference?

          Huge.

          The south thought of a slave as a slave. And their children would also be slaves.

          The North viewed them as enslaved humans, who were just humans once they were in a state without slavery.

          That is a deep and fundamental difference. It changes so much about how both sides viewed slavery. The North was ok with some escaping, but they really weren’t going to lift a finger to stop it either.

          While the South literally saw them as property.

          If Lincoln had caved, it would have turned I to a total shit show. Not just northern cops, but “bounty hunters” who would likely grab any Black person they saw.

          You really don’t see why details are important? I can just let it go if it doesn’t.