• Carrolade@lemmy.world
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    Biden is a veteran politician, a little horse trading of policies for support is nothing new to him. And besides, if you’re slugging it out with a populist nationalism type, Bernie’s advice is probably some of the wisest you could ask for anyway.

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          Yes, vote local, and vote every time there’s a Bernie like politician. Grass roots brought us everyone from Eugene Debs to Bernie Sanders and all before and will come after.

          It’s local politics where we can enact real change.

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    Probably because there were a ton of calls for either of them to be the candidate instead, and they didnt want a split dem race if Biden stayed in.

    Its concerning they were supporting him because it shows theyre not in on whatever party leadership talks took place for Biden to step down.

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      Neither of them are leadership, but I still wouldn’t count on that. I think having a strong show of support makes Biden stepping down look classy instead of like he’s been hooked offstage like a muppet.

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    He’s not running anymore. You don’t have to pretend he’s a progressive anymore. No one bought it.

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      biden is literally the most pro labor, pro union, and pro worker in recent history which is why the online slacktivist twitter left hates him (and why the media was so desperate to drive him out).

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        Bahahahahahaha… 😂

        Yeah, no.

        And just to very briefly elaborate

        the most pro labor, pro union, and pro worker in recent history

        Even if this were true, then he’s all that and still not even on the left side of centre, what the fuck does that tell you (it tells me that at the very least you don’t understand what political left actually looks like, but the epitome of maintaining the capitalist status quo isn’t it)…

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    lol that is some headline gore - mixed contradictory metaphors? Oof.

    • went down swinging [fists]-> went down fighting (somewhat obvious to everyone)
    • swinging left -> the article is trying to say he was moving further left ideologically
    • … but it feels like he was swinging (fists) left a lot of the time.

    For me, in response to this statement, it really comes down to Biden being somewhat disconnected from the reality on the ground for most Americans. He and his campaign have had difficulty communicating successes for a lot of reasons… but one of the big reasons is that the “wins” on paper largely aren’t translating to making enough of a positive difference to a large enough number of people in terms of lived experience. Like ok great you saved the economy… in an era where most people have nowhere near enough scratch to invest in stocks. So all the “saving” mostly goes into corporate stock buybacks and exec comp packages. The fact that they still don’t seem to understand this stuff is deeply dismaying, and I think it’s pretty clearly a party leadership issue. You can propagandize all you want, but at the end of the day, Democratic and left-leaning voters tend to be far less tribal and gullible than the Republican base these days, and trying to bullshit us on things that are obviously not entirely true is just not going to work very well.

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    More like he went down flailing wildly. Biden tried a lot of things that were never going to get through the supreme court. He did a lot, mostly ineffectively because he didn’t deal with the real problems.

    The supreme court and extremism.

    His proposition was to go back to business as normal, but things have fundamentally changed.

    More than anything that’s why he had to go.