There needs to be an open convention. NO one voted for Harris as President, assuming the job is hers is usurping the democratic election process. I could have sworn we were told we need to elect a democrat to preserve democracy
The thing is, she’s as close as you can get to an elected candidate in this circumstance. An “open” convention doesn’t mean everyone gets to vote, it means the relatively smaller set of die hard party members get to ignore their primary voters and decide what they want to do.
The only presidential candidate that won the votes was Biden. He then chose Harris as a running mate, which meant the general population voted for her to be the president if a man in his 80s has to step down.
Yes might have been better for him to have stepped aside before the primaries, but he we are, with the VP being the only choice people plausibly got to vote on.
You miss the part where many democrats are so terrified of the image that has been painted of Trump that they would vote for a resurrected Hitler if they were told he was wearing a blue button.
One of these two will have power in November. That is reality. The democrats are the lesser of two evils. People living in reality don’t have the luxury of choosing non-existent options, and have to pick from what is possible.
That’s not what I said, and don’t put words in my mouth.
It’s not what he says he’ll do, it’s what he says he is. He is a petty dictator who can’t stomach dissent or disagreement who will happily use anyone to further his own ends, and will happily take whatever interpretation of reality puts him on top, even if it means intentionally misreading and misinterpreting things.
But I don’t have to tell you that. You seem to be quite well-versed in that technique yourself.
With one hand your ignorance can cover the sky. How impressive! Now talk to me about EMTALA, or Griswold, or Obergefell—and we’re not even touching the thrilling possibilities of executive action. People who are paying attention (and aren’t straight white men devoid of empathy) are taking this seriously. Maybe you should investigate why.
The side calling 100k+ dead foreign brown kids a “single issue” is so much more empathetic than the evil white man pointing out how awful it is. Cirque du soleil may have an opening for their new mental themed acrobatics show if you are interested.
As soon as they started using our bombs and tax money to blow up safety camps for displaced citizens, we should have quit giving them everything they asked for. If we must, we should be lending them money, not straight giving them billions in free bombs. That would be the simplest start. It is clear they are way beyond selPalestine.
I find it very hard to believe that the most peaceful president in nearly everyone’s lifetimes is going to go nuking palestine. I know there’s a bunch of people who are convinced he is, I just don’t buy it.
We know what is happening in Palestine is an atrocity. Who stops the sale of arms and bombs. How do we get them into office? Outline how this works practically. What levers of power are we throwing to get the result we want? Be specific.
Just saying because we should stop selling is cheap. 1/3 of the cointry doesn’t care, another 1/3 likes the genocide. How do we outmaneuver them?
Because not voting blue, and not having anything more concrete than ‘because we shouldn’t’ doesn’t save a single Palestinian but comes with the doorprize of 10 year olds forced to have their rapist’s baby, and open season on trans people, blank checks to corpos, the end of public schools, etc. Performative morality is a blight.
There needs to be an open convention. NO one voted for Harris as President, assuming the job is hers is usurping the democratic election process. I could have sworn we were told we need to elect a democrat to preserve democracy
The thing is, she’s as close as you can get to an elected candidate in this circumstance. An “open” convention doesn’t mean everyone gets to vote, it means the relatively smaller set of die hard party members get to ignore their primary voters and decide what they want to do.
The only presidential candidate that won the votes was Biden. He then chose Harris as a running mate, which meant the general population voted for her to be the president if a man in his 80s has to step down.
Yes might have been better for him to have stepped aside before the primaries, but he we are, with the VP being the only choice people plausibly got to vote on.
You miss the part where many democrats are so terrified of the image that has been painted of Trump that they would vote for a resurrected Hitler if they were told he was wearing a blue button.
Democrats didn’t paint that image. Trump did.
When someone tells you who they are, believe them.
The Democrats are telling me that they are an oligarchy that only cares about keeping power.
One of these two will have power in November. That is reality. The democrats are the lesser of two evils. People living in reality don’t have the luxury of choosing non-existent options, and have to pick from what is possible.
How interesting. So when trump tells you he will fight for democracy, you believe him. What a confusing world you must be living in.
That’s not what I said, and don’t put words in my mouth.
It’s not what he says he’ll do, it’s what he says he is. He is a petty dictator who can’t stomach dissent or disagreement who will happily use anyone to further his own ends, and will happily take whatever interpretation of reality puts him on top, even if it means intentionally misreading and misinterpreting things.
But I don’t have to tell you that. You seem to be quite well-versed in that technique yourself.
With one hand your ignorance can cover the sky. How impressive! Now talk to me about EMTALA, or Griswold, or Obergefell—and we’re not even touching the thrilling possibilities of executive action. People who are paying attention (and aren’t straight white men devoid of empathy) are taking this seriously. Maybe you should investigate why.
The side calling 100k+ dead foreign brown kids a “single issue” is so much more empathetic than the evil white man pointing out how awful it is. Cirque du soleil may have an opening for their new mental themed acrobatics show if you are interested.
Okay. What is your plan to stop it? Omit the magic beans. I have allergies.
Lay it out step by step.
As soon as they started using our bombs and tax money to blow up safety camps for displaced citizens, we should have quit giving them everything they asked for. If we must, we should be lending them money, not straight giving them billions in free bombs. That would be the simplest start. It is clear they are way beyond selPalestine.
I find it very hard to believe that the most peaceful president in nearly everyone’s lifetimes is going to go nuking palestine. I know there’s a bunch of people who are convinced he is, I just don’t buy it.
This is not a plan.
We know what is happening in Palestine is an atrocity. Who stops the sale of arms and bombs. How do we get them into office? Outline how this works practically. What levers of power are we throwing to get the result we want? Be specific.
Just saying because we should stop selling is cheap. 1/3 of the cointry doesn’t care, another 1/3 likes the genocide. How do we outmaneuver them?
Because not voting blue, and not having anything more concrete than ‘because we shouldn’t’ doesn’t save a single Palestinian but comes with the doorprize of 10 year olds forced to have their rapist’s baby, and open season on trans people, blank checks to corpos, the end of public schools, etc. Performative morality is a blight.
Why are you lying? Trump’s position on Israel is that it should “finish the job” [of genociding the Palestinians].
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Given the evident consensus, an open convention will yield Harris as the nominee.
Cool. Let’s have an open convention then.
I’m fine with Harris winning at the convention - I’m not fine with the DNC coronating her beforehand.
Oh, I agree. And given Harris’ statement about wanting to win the nomination, I think that’s where it’s going.