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        He’s even proud of it he thinks he’s so amazing and self made for doing that.

        The real joke of these elite universities is how education has become an entirely tertiary function. Social networking with rich people and padding your resume matter so much more than attending actual classes.

        Elon throwing a continuous kegger for a few years probably was what introduced him to all the children of spooks and bureaucrats and investment bankers necessary to make him into the billionaire he is today.

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      Ok, why dismantling FBI is bad? FSB, GRU, RKN, FBI, NSA - all of them should be dismantled

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          they stop 99% of things like 9/11

          The FBI is famous for stopping terrorist attacks before they happen and not at all notorious for chasing, harassing, and killing civil rights leaders, anti-war activists, LGBTQ groups, and religious minorities.

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        I’m not saying they’re effective, but the FBI is one of the few organizations that can investigate corrupt police forces. How would we address that?

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          Make agency that ONLY investigates corrupt police forces instead of putting backdoors everywhere

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    Among other things already mentioned here, he thinks trump can help him take revenge on Norway, which invested in him early on but now does not allow Tesla vehicles to be sold there.

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      This can’t be true if Stalinism and Khmer Rouge are kinds of fascism, which they are generally agreed to be.

      Fascism is “might makes right” without checks and balances. With those it would be feudalism, but those don’t form overnight. With checks, but without balances it would be absolutism. With balances, but without checks it would be free-for-all. So fascism is what you have after a society has fallen to barbarism, but before it has learned to live in it.

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        This can’t be true if Stalinism and Khmer Rouge are kinds of fascism, which they are generally agreed to be.

        I’m not sure i see the link youre making here. Could you expand on that please?

        Capitalism is (financial) might makes right, with the appearance of chacks and balances. All of which have been utterly compromised and perverted by capitalism.

        History shows us that fascism is simply capitalism when you try to say no. There was 1900s capitalism. Then, there was a movement trying to say no to the workhouses, debtors prisons and wealth theft. In direct response to this, fascism arose to protect the assets of the wealthy from the people trying to say no to capitalism. You can see it in America where striking workers were gunned down by police, as one example there. In the UK too, where the Royal Hussars cavalry were set on protesting workers. So, where I say that, I mean it in a very literal way.

        Most people just don’t see it, as very few of us are even able to say no much less actual say it too. That doesn’t make it any less true though.

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              I meant that in case of Nazi Germany, Italy, Spain and such it was what you say (in Spain not so clear though). But Stalinist regime with very similar traits was driven by then new Soviet bureaucracy willing to increase its control over society, grow heavy industries necessary for revolutionary offensive wars their ideology then demanded, and crush political opponents.

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                Spain was exactly the same and rose from putting down the Marxist and Spanish anarchist movements who were trying to say no to capitalism.

                The stalinist regime evolved out of people trying to say no to capitalism.

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    Musk is pumping up Trump’s coffers so that he gets elected and follows through with his promise to ban EV imports from other countries, essentially cementing his monopoly on the EV market that Tesla currently dominates.

    Long story short, don’t buy a Tesla. They’re kinda shitty anyway.

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      Let’s scale those amounts to something more understandable to non-billionaires

      Imagine earning $50k per year and buying the president’s favor for $45 per month. Elon is buying access to the most powerful person on the planet for the equivalent of a monthly phone bill.

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      Nooooo liberalism is very clear that the role of government is to protect human rights!!!

      Surely a system that depends on an educated voter won’t sabotage itself to such an extent that the average voter doesn’t even know that!

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    We gotta stop getting hung up on these animals being inconsistent with themselves and each other.

    While I see the humor in this, it’s not the kind of thing that the right wing would care about. Both of these takes are from people that believe in strong class hierarchy, with those on top owning/controlling most everything. The contrary take on EVs doesn’t even clock as dissonant if all you care about is punching down on people not like you, and want big powerful men to do the punching for you. It’s not seen as dysfunction, it’s toxic masculinity on display where guys are constantly jockying for their spot in the pecking order; that’s normal for people like this. So, they really are on the same team in the eyes of their constituents, with Musk having some political power without being a politician per-se.

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    At first, I was thinking “If Trump is anti-EV and Elon owns a company that makes EV’s, why would Elon support Trump?”

    then I was like “ohh. Oooooohhhh”