• demesisx@infosec.pub
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    4 months ago

    I hate Donald Trump as much as the next guy but you identity politics dupes need to wake up and stop throwing your support behind fake leftists like Obama. The absence of a true left is what gave us Donald Trump in the first place.

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      4 months ago

      What gave us Donald Trump was a lot of rich oligarchs who wanted their never-ending tax breaks and a cult of poorly educated dumb-asses.

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        And those oligarchs bought up every key political seat in the GOP and DNC….

        What I am getting at is: we’re sitting here infighting between two sham parties.
        First past the post literally disqualifies the US from being considered a democracy. It keeps us infighting about Hulk Hogan vs. the Undertaker while the corporations (which are considered people except they are increasingly unprosecutable/above the law) shape our government into a fascist state whether you’re talking about under GOP or DNC rule.

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        they got that with Republicans. what gave us Donald Trump is a 2 party system and it’s lack of alignment with the electorate.

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    His being a transgressive monster is well known and also the primary source of his appeal. I think pointing out his amorality alone won’t help. However, perhaps linking his amorality to how he will personally hurt voters by harming women and LGBTQ+ rights and by destroying social security might land. He might say he won’t do that and the retort would be he is lying. A monster is only appealing when he will attack the right people and not you personally.

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      A monster is only appealing if they act and believe like the supporters wish to be.

      And it’s also the power of never taking responsibility for monstrous things in this world. If the monster is given power to do monstrous things, if you support monstrous things then you can watch it all happen. If the monster is stopped and punished, but you had supported the monster, you can stand aside and say you were never part of it.

      The monster is only a small part of how monstrous society can be.

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    Moral high ground is MEANINGLESS to these broken people.
    You will achieve nothing by engaging with these broken people.
    You will learn nothing from the reality-television that passes for “news” in the 24-hour cycle and online, you can only damage your emotional and mental health.

    You already know all you need to know. You’ve known for eight years already. Speak softly, disengage from the noise as much as possible, and vote Democrat in November.

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    It is funny how wholesome the obama family is compared to most presidents outside of carter, although I don’t really have a good idea of previous presidents personal lives once you get older than kennedy/nixon

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    Trump is an arse, sure, but Obama isn’t made of roses and honey. this is not about his race; this is about him as an individual.

    talk to kids in Pakistan who have contracted polio because their parents distrust vaccination volunteers, and that because of the operation which disguised Osama’s executioners as traveling vaccinators.

    as mr. 44 oversaw that mission, poliovirus still exists in the world today because of that man. i hope the nobel peace prize that he bought is worth the suffering those children go through every day.