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US presidential candidate, Jill Stein, says because of AIPAC’s $100 million funding of the US election, it has become '‘politically toxic’ to speak out against the genocide in Gaza.

‘If we have concerns about the right to life before birth, how about a right to life after birth,’ she said in reference to Israel’s killing of innocent children and the elderly in Gaza. US President Joe Biden 'can end this war with a phone call’, she added.

  • Linkerbaan@lemmy.worldOP
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    4 months ago

    I’m not saying you are wrong about how it should work, but I also have bad news for you about where the GOP gets a lot of their money and priorities

    Tell me who is that? Surely the DNC doesn’t accept money from those people right?

    And Biden isn’t president too right? He has no power to anything about AIPAC.

    Instead of running simulations try observing this thing called “reality”.

    • mozz@mbin.grits.dev
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      4 months ago

      Tell me who is that?

      One, two, three. It’s pretty well documented at this point.

      Surely the DNC doesn’t accept money from those people right?

      Er… what?

      I know you’re just throwing disagreements at me which is a game that can continue more or less forever; I’m pretty much done with the conversation at this point. But yes, the DNC doesn’t accept money on any large scale from the Russians. What would be the point of the Russians funding the party that’s running against the party that they have corrupted to serve their geopolitical ends?

      A lot of things do work that way (AIPAC among them), but the Democrats are not trying to destroy America and advance Russia’s interests abroad, and don’t seem likely to start doing that anytime soon, so I would be surprised if there’s any large-scale effort by the Russians to fund the DNC. Do you know of one?

      Instead of running simulations try observing this thing called “reality”.

      Okay, sure. In reality Trump wants to finish the job in Gaza, is furious (along with his cohort in congress) at even the laughable level of resistance Biden has given to the genocide so far, and wants to have have the military seize voting machines and run the elections in the future, shoot protestors including ones for justice in Palestine with live ammunition, and fire anyone anywhere in the government who’s not loyal to him (i.e. might give resistance to any of that as they did during his last term).

      Will that lead to:

      1. Greater justice for Palestine, and better ability to fix this system in the future?
      2. Not that?

      You don’t have to answer; I do not plan to continue this interaction, I don’t think. The game that can go on forever of you just saying crazy counterfactual shit with this condescending tone as if I’m the wrong one. I just wanted to debunk a little more of the crazy shit before I continue on with my day.

      • Linkerbaan@lemmy.worldOP
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        4 months ago

        Yes we see Vladimir Putin bribing people under the table here.

        Putin is not organizing “Russia PAC” conventions where both Democrats and Republicans are speaking proudly about how hard they are going to Genocide Palesitnians.

        You don’t have Russians posting this on Twitter

        We are not inviting Vladimir Putin in Congress to speak about how he needs more 2000 pound bombs to blow up schools with.

        You know why? Because that’s illegal

        • mozz@mbin.grits.dev
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          4 months ago

          I’m gonna just relax in the middle of the field, and observe the goalposts whizzing around. Look at them go! But I don’t have to run after them any more. I just had that epiphany.

          I’m free.

          (You also didn’t answer my 1 vs 2 question, because… as Hunter Thompson said, to ask the question is to answer the question. It is ok; I am done)