• Deceptichum@quokk.au
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    4 months ago

    You’re thinking of ML tankies.

    Communism is a stateless, classless, system where people enact mutualism and socialism without state coercion.

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      4 months ago

      What makes this thing you’re describing, not anarchism?

      I think you’re thinking of anarchocommunism specifically. Which is “not all communism”™.

      State-based communism is a thing, that many people usually called tankies by others, do believe in.

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        4 months ago

        The difference between non-ML tankie communism and anarchism is the means of getting there.

        Communists want a vanguard state to slowly whittle away.

        Anarchists want to skip that step.

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          4 months ago

          I see. Well, if I take what you’re saying as fully correct, then it sounds like communism compared to anarchism, is just “a different path for how we reach the same utopia”.

          And this different path passes through more authority (quantity and quality), through the existence and emphasis of the state.

          How much authority, is probably what makes the spectrum of Anarchy to Stalin-Lenin.

          And well… As an anarchist, deafboy’s comment might be polemic, but I get it. Any authority that can, will get corrupted.