Yes. It’s an American term used to describe those who are in opposition to conservative views. It’s not an ideology.
But please, tell me what being a progressive values compared to any other leftist. What makes a progressive different from a anarchist, communist, or a dem soc who have defined values and beliefs?
Yeah, it actually fucking does. It’s the the name. “Progress.” Move forward. As in giving everyone a share, giving everyone a say, and giving everyone a decent life. You know, the opposite of "Conserve.’ Keeping the Status Quo, never changing, a state of perpetual stasis. The rich stay rich, the poor stay poor. Ad Infinitum.
Progress to fucking what? Progress looks very different depending on which direction you want to progress in.
Likewise the opposite of conserve is not a fair go, that’s semantic bullshittery on your behalf. It’s change and change is neither good nor bad, much the same as conserving is neither good nor bad.
Various forms of socialism, communism, anarchism, and other leftist beliefs generally have a set of defining traits. What sets “progressive” as different from say georgism?
And the fact that you bought the abortion culture war bullshit tells me that you’re unintelligent. Do you actually believe a billionaire whose daughter hypothetically gets pregnant from rape won’t find her an abortion doctor?
Wake the fuck up. The ideology you subscribe to wouldn’t piss on you if you were on fire. Or maybe it would, if you are filthy rich. If so, then shame on you. This isn’t a sport, it’s serious issues that affect millions of people who are not you.
But something tells me you would rather die than admit to yourself, and anyone else, that you are wrong.
Anarchism wouldn’t piss on me if I’m on fire? Doubt.
I’m a hardcore burn the state down and send the rulers to the gallows if they resist leftist.
“Progressive” is not a system of beliefs, it’s not an ideology, it’s a term Americans used to describe differentiate from their conservatives because they can’t just use the label “leftist” because surprise surprise most of them are filthy capos.
In regards to American politics, not individuals, they’re correct. The American “Progressive” party is majority Reagan Republicans. You have outliers like Bernie. Well, only Bernie.
Because you say so?
Nonsense.
Yes. It’s an American term used to describe those who are in opposition to conservative views. It’s not an ideology.
But please, tell me what being a progressive values compared to any other leftist. What makes a progressive different from a anarchist, communist, or a dem soc who have defined values and beliefs?
State ownership of utilities for one.
What, progressives are in favour of state owned utils or aren’t? Explain yourself properly.
State ownership of utilities for one.
Yes and what about it?
Socialists would be in favour of state ownership of resources.
Anarchists and communists wouldn’t be in favour of a state.
What do progressives value about state ownership of utils, are they for it, against it?
If you can’t answer such a simple question yourself, I’m not sure there’s any point continuing this discussion. Have a great day.
… Riiiightio
Communists believe in state ownership of utilities as well as many other things atleast until the state withers away
Contrarian semantics aren’t clever.
This isn’t about clever sementics, it’s about them not being able to define what something is.
Progressive isn’t an ideology, you can’t lump it in with leftist ideals because it doesn’t stand for anything.
Yeah, it actually fucking does. It’s the the name. “Progress.” Move forward. As in giving everyone a share, giving everyone a say, and giving everyone a decent life. You know, the opposite of "Conserve.’ Keeping the Status Quo, never changing, a state of perpetual stasis. The rich stay rich, the poor stay poor. Ad Infinitum.
Progress to fucking what? Progress looks very different depending on which direction you want to progress in.
Likewise the opposite of conserve is not a fair go, that’s semantic bullshittery on your behalf. It’s change and change is neither good nor bad, much the same as conserving is neither good nor bad.
Various forms of socialism, communism, anarchism, and other leftist beliefs generally have a set of defining traits. What sets “progressive” as different from say georgism?
The desire to make everyone’s life better by progressing appropriate legislation.
That’s so vague that a conservative could call themselves progressive because they think it’s saving lives to ban abortion.
Fuck Milton Friedman.
And the fact that you bought the abortion culture war bullshit tells me that you’re unintelligent. Do you actually believe a billionaire whose daughter hypothetically gets pregnant from rape won’t find her an abortion doctor?
Wake the fuck up. The ideology you subscribe to wouldn’t piss on you if you were on fire. Or maybe it would, if you are filthy rich. If so, then shame on you. This isn’t a sport, it’s serious issues that affect millions of people who are not you.
But something tells me you would rather die than admit to yourself, and anyone else, that you are wrong.
Anarchism wouldn’t piss on me if I’m on fire? Doubt.
I’m a hardcore burn the state down and send the rulers to the gallows if they resist leftist.
“Progressive” is not a system of beliefs, it’s not an ideology, it’s a term Americans used to describe differentiate from their conservatives because they can’t just use the label “leftist” because surprise surprise most of them are filthy capos.
In regards to American politics, not individuals, they’re correct. The American “Progressive” party is majority Reagan Republicans. You have outliers like Bernie. Well, only Bernie.