So there’s a chance the Deck and modern PCs could emulate the system pretty quickly. Thanks Nintendo!
There is just 0 competition at the current steam deck price point.
That much is a given. Nintendo never goes for top-performance (well, not since the 90s) and it wouldn’t make sense for them either.
Nintendo never goes for top-performance (well, not since the 90s)
GameCube was more performant than PS2 and only a little bit less performant than Xbox. Biggest downside was its small disk.
It’s not the size of the disk that matter, but how you use it
My mom says my disk is big enough.
Was this after you broke both your arms?
The issue with Nintendo is that to their true core, they are still a of card games company that inspire to become the next Disney. The problem with GameCube was polluted with the “for family first”, without realize that their original NES '80 kids where 15~20 year older… not little child anymore. People didn’t want the “Super Mario Sunshine” console, they wanted Resident Evil 4, Silent Hill 2~3 kind of console. The people that buy today the switch are probably clueless parent that buy the “for child” console… or a Nintendo Adult as parallel for Disney Adult.
I like how you lecture the company that produced 5 of the 10 best selling consoles of all time on how they have no idea about what their customers want.
You realize that new kids are born every year right? I was a kid when the GameCube was out and had no experience with NES whatsoever… didn’t matter. And it played Super Mario Sunshine which was btw incredible, as well as shooters.
Despite everything, GC had a pretty solid 3rd party lineup. It was my 2nd favorite Nintendo console after SNES until Switch got all the Metroid Prime remaster and such. Switch now is the Greatest Hits compilation.
Nintendo is at its best when doing something no other game developer would do, and getting laughed at until everyone realizes how great it was in hindsight. What’s new about Switch 2?
INB4 it’s gonna be a repeat of the Wii U. A confusing, non compatible successor to a revolutionary product.
INB4 it’s gonna be a repeat of the Wii U. A confusing, non compatible successor to a revolutionary product.
A bit too revolutionary. Wii had a seriously bad attachment rate. People bought Wii Sports, Mario Kart and Smash. Regular games sold badly. Wii was a party gimmick that collected dust on regular days. Wii U was the attempt (later fulfilled by Switch) to be a regular gaming machine as well.
Yes but the main reason those consoles were so shaky is specifically because they did not address a much younger audience. The original Wii kind of tried to but if you look at its best sellers, a ton of them were not aimed at adults.
The same is true of the Wii U where rather than targeting that audience, they tried to pivot to a more adult console with games like the zombie launch title.
So most of the success of the switch is just that it finally was a family console again. But keep in mind, they have nowhere to pivot to. That’s why the switch 2 is what it is and why it’s so late. They can’t afford a misstep and they also can’t afford to saturate the only market niche they have left.
I think I’ve read backwards compatibility is confirmed, which these days there’s no excuse not to.
I think I’ve read backwards compatibility is confirmed, which these days there’s no excuse not to.
I think they confirmed that during a message to investors.
Oh look, a modern new Pokemon game with the graphics quality of N64. Must be nice to shit out literally anything from their established IPs, knowing no matter how bland and dated they look, your rabid consumer base will eat it up.
I’d much rather have a game with subpar graphics and excellent gameplay than a game with subpar gameplay and excellent graphics.
“What if we just build a clamshell hinge into the Switch 2 and make it small enough to fit into someone’s pocket?”
That’s a brilliant idea! If we’re that innovative again next week, somebody might even suggest adding a second screen to the foldable console.
Learnt from the ps2
There’s a way bigger market in having the cheapest hardware than there is in having decent hardware
Does that account for the fact that the graphics in almost all Nintendo games are dogshit?
Like even with running stupidly low resolution graphics it still won’t perform as well as a steam deck with much better graphics?
Good. If I had my way it would be even less performant than the Switch 1, and last for 25 years before needing replacement parts.
There’s nothing with modern complexities that is going to last that long. Think of the complexities of today’s system. I mean I’ve got my original PlayStation, it’s 25 or 26 years old now, and it mostly functions to your point, but it also hasn’t been heavily played (or really played at all) for about 20 years. But my PS2, I went through three of them in 6 years. My Xbox is almost 20 years old, it’s my second (and is making weird noises). And so on. My PS4 at 10 years old runs, but makes a ton of noise and is definitely slower than it used to be. It ain’t making it to 20, that’s for sure, I mean maybe now that it gets zero use it might.
My point is, the more intense they got, the more problems I started to have. As the boomers like saying too, shit ain’t built like it used to be.
Yeah it’s a bit of a pipe dream, but my point was that if they reduced the complexity, increased the build quality, and made it repairable, then I would be so happy.
Nintendo are just the bunch of madlads to pull it off too. It’s not like need to worry about being profitable.
E: my mistake, forgot I was in the gearhead community :p
Another thing is that the power profile of consoles (and computers in general) has gone up a lot since the earlier consoles. Even if it was well-designed, the thermal paste in all of the coolers would still get hard over time and need to be replaced. That wasn’t as much of an issue with consoles like the Nintendo 64 that used a 20-watt wall adapter as opposed to the max of 200 watts* a PS5 can draw under load. (I don’t have a PS5 so I don’t actually know if this is accurate but it’s what Google said)
The switch doesn’t use much power either but having a battery and the thin profile makes that type of longevity a lot harder. (Granted, longevity is hard for anything with a lithium battery)
sigh, takes out 3DS that’s still hanging in there
Just so you know, that wasn’t me. We are having a perfectly reasonable convo, I assure you.
It would actually cost more money to get older process nodes to get lower performance.
No one would be able to afford it if they even tried and failed to make it last that long and there would be no support for it.
Within a couple years there will be an emulator to play it’s games on PC, making it’s durability a moot point
Oh well, maybe this is the best they could do then. Would love to a big player really push the kind of hw we’re talking about, though
Here’s the video that the article references. Timestamped link: https://youtube.com/watch?v=X2mBP8i4WYA&t=3840s
