• Deceptichum@quokk.au
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        4 months ago

        It’s okay, I have it on good authority that after Trump loses the next election that all the dem voters will say that the threat is gone now and will push for the drastic changes needed to stop situations where the choice is between a senile old right wing capital and a senile old far-right wing capitalist.

        Or at least that’s what they’ve all been promising, that after this one last Trump time that everyone can finally be critical and demand better. Surely there won’t be another far-right threat to force all leftists to vote for a right winger, and we all know centrists will never vote left, it’s only the left that must change direction.

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          4 months ago

          This hits so close to home as you perfectly captured exactly what I’ve had people tell me here and on reddit three presidential elections in a row. I get that people have short memories, but how do they keep falling for these same lines over and over again while everything burns down around us?

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            4 months ago

            Well there is a wide range of experiences and perspectives.

            For me personally, while theres a bunch of awful stuff going on, its not like those things didnt exist before. We have been dealing with nationalistic terrorism for at the very least since the end of the Vietnamese War.

            I hate to sound all silver lining or whatever, but the reason I’m not worried is that over time, in general, it seems the majority slowly moves forward as fast as they can comfortably do so.

            Objectively bad things like violent crime, unequal rights, tribalism, religion to an extent, have all declined consistently over my whole life.

            And I will add that the republicans who are saying that their way of life is under attack, it absolutely is. I dont know why people expect these groups to just hear a well argued position and just decide to change their mind.

            Its very rare for people to change against their local community without a strong driving factor, and a loud democrat is never going to be that.

            And for the record, I dont care about Biden’s problems right now because even he is changing as fast as possible given his own biases and past experiences, and the fact that the democrats lead as a party leads me to being comfortable with the VP taking over if he dies or goes senile.

            In fact I’d much rather a senile Biden to any version of Trump. Ive also yet to hear anyone say that the next election cycle is going to be more of the same since. I hear about optimism for our next possible choices.

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      4 months ago

      Yes, I thought it was clear that was what I was complaining about

      Fuck Biden for doing shit like this and then insisting if he’s not president it has to be trump

      It takes a special kind of evil to blatantly facilitate a genocide because you know if you’re held accountable even worse shit gets done.

      They’re both pieces of shit.