Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez came out in support of President Joe Biden amid growing calls in the Democratic Party for Biden to drop out of the 2024 race.
I don’t think the opinion “the man who has control of the nuclear arsenal is showing signs of senility and should not serve another 4 years regardless of who replaces him” is not an unreasonable one
When the current only alternative is someone with clearly worse faculties and intentions, it obviously fucking is. Again, name who you think can beat him. Go ahead. Take into account the entire current political climate. We’ll wait.
this is kinda a ridiculous request. The DNC should be the ones actively finding and presenting alternatives. If it was any other election year what if something happened to their primary candidate?
No one publicly shows interest because the party prevents any alternative. Anyone trying to run is accused of trying to break up the party, look at what happened to Bernie.
I advocated for Bernie, during the primaries, when it was time to choose a Democratic candidate. Note that that time is not now. Now is the time where a democratic candidate need to beat Trump. Do you think even swapping Bernie in now that he could beat Trump?
Not trying to question your motives here (seriously, I’m not) but I grimace hearing “we’re only months away from the election, we couldn’t possibly make changes now” because it has a perverse similarity to the argument Mitch McConnell used to ratfuck his way into an extra SC justice. And we all know how that turned out.
Do you think even swapping Bernie in now that he could beat Trump?
This question broke me. If the left-leaning voting population of the USA can’t support a single candidate against freaking Trump except Biden then we deserve whatever disaster occurs. That’s embarrassing. Truly childish levels of spitefulness.
Or just that some people dont have any problem supporting Biden right now. Internet’s full of loud assholes during on hills, thats what makes you successful here.
The Polymarket prediction markets gives odds for who will win the presidential election and who will win the democratic nominee. We can compare the odds of each candidate and use Bayes Theorem to determine their chances of winning the presidency if they secure the DNC nomination.
Obviously this doesn’t work perfectly (the Michelle Obama example especially is bizarre), but there is over $300M behind these numbers so people seem to think they’re at least somewhat accurate.
TLDR: there is a lot of money that thinks Joe Biden is one of the worst options
It wouldn’t be if there were an alternative who was not showing similar or worse signs of senility. When both of the only feasible candidates have the same issue, that issue is mostly moot.
I agree that those would be good candidates. I have little confidence that they would defeat Trump, especially now with relatively little name recognition among people who don’t actively follow the news.
I don’t think the opinion “the man who has control of the nuclear arsenal is showing signs of senility and should not serve another 4 years regardless of who replaces him” is not an unreasonable one
When the current only alternative is someone with clearly worse faculties and intentions, it obviously fucking is. Again, name who you think can beat him. Go ahead. Take into account the entire current political climate. We’ll wait.
this is kinda a ridiculous request. The DNC should be the ones actively finding and presenting alternatives. If it was any other election year what if something happened to their primary candidate?
No one publicly shows interest because the party prevents any alternative. Anyone trying to run is accused of trying to break up the party, look at what happened to Bernie.
I advocated for Bernie, during the primaries, when it was time to choose a Democratic candidate. Note that that time is not now. Now is the time where a democratic candidate need to beat Trump. Do you think even swapping Bernie in now that he could beat Trump?
Not trying to question your motives here (seriously, I’m not) but I grimace hearing “we’re only months away from the election, we couldn’t possibly make changes now” because it has a perverse similarity to the argument Mitch McConnell used to ratfuck his way into an extra SC justice. And we all know how that turned out.
This question broke me. If the left-leaning voting population of the USA can’t support a single candidate against freaking Trump except Biden then we deserve whatever disaster occurs. That’s embarrassing. Truly childish levels of spitefulness.
Or just that some people dont have any problem supporting Biden right now. Internet’s full of loud assholes during on hills, thats what makes you successful here.
Kucinich
The Polymarket prediction markets gives odds for who will win the presidential election and who will win the democratic nominee. We can compare the odds of each candidate and use Bayes Theorem to determine their chances of winning the presidency if they secure the DNC nomination.
Here’s the results as of posting this comment:
Joe Biden: 27% Kamala Harris: 50% Michelle Obama: 100% Gavin Newsom: 66% Other: 50%
Obviously this doesn’t work perfectly (the Michelle Obama example especially is bizarre), but there is over $300M behind these numbers so people seem to think they’re at least somewhat accurate.
TLDR: there is a lot of money that thinks Joe Biden is one of the worst options
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jul/09/biden-polling-debate-trump
That information doesn’t change anything I’ve said. He can be “trailing trump” and still not be the best candidate the dems could have
I think there are people on the fence (who generally decide the election) who would be swayed by Biden’s apparent dementia
It wouldn’t be if there were an alternative who was not showing similar or worse signs of senility. When both of the only feasible candidates have the same issue, that issue is mostly moot.
You don’t think if Biden stepped down and it was an open primary there wouldn’t be some good options?
Pete Buttigeig, Gavin Newsom, Gretchen Whitmer, anyone under 60 would make Trump look like a dottering old man in comparison
I agree that those would be good candidates. I have little confidence that they would defeat Trump, especially now with relatively little name recognition among people who don’t actively follow the news.