Okay, real talk, the concept of ethics in general is a human construct. One that is impossible to apply across all cultures, and even when they are accepted as social mores, they are illogically applied and are often full of internal contradictions.

For example, if it’s unethical to “kill someone who’s done nothing to you and didn’t want to die.”, then can we assume it’s ethical to kill something that has slighted us? Or is it okay to kill something that isn’t conscious of it’s mortality?

How do we determine if something doesn’t want to die? How do we delineate the difference between something like zooplankton or krill from plants?

I don’t really eat meat, but that’s mostly for health and environmental harm reduction. However, I understand that humans are imperfect beings, and have different social mores to adhere too. Out of all the evil man has unleashed over our evolution, I would hardly say that consuming animal products is anywhere close to the top of the list.

Plus, I think the way the west classifies veganism is a bit culturally insensitive. Different cultures subscribe to different interpretations of attributes when defining traits to life forms than in the west.

For example, there are Buddhist monks in Korea that eat a “vegan diet”, except their kimchi is made with krill. Now if you ask if they eat meat or animals, they will tell you no. However, culturally krill aren’t really considered an animal, they’re viewed more as a plant.

I would hardly call a person who’s spent their entire lives living off of plants a carnist or “bloodmouth”, just because they eat a little krill. But, I would like to hear your opinion on the matter.

Good thing a pig isn’t someone.

Even a wounded animal is going to respond physically to the sound of a saw. Then you have to consider what will happen when the half dead body of a 900lb pig is placed on a cold steel plate and slowly pushed into a sharp fast moving band saw. A half alive pig would take a few people to hold it down and get the job done.

If you go ass first, damn things would probably kick and scream for a good 5 minutes before it would succumb to the injuries. Would be better to go head first really.

On second thought, for the health of the consumer, the food meat animal would need to be gutted before it was cut on the band saw. Yeah, gutting a half living meat sack would be much harder than a dead one. Very awkward. Maybe if it were dead enough it might even live for an extra few minutes. One might say that would be an advantage over being killed instantly with a bolt to the skull. You had a few more minutes of life, no matter how painful they might have been.

Paralysed maybe, not able to move our scream. A soft gloved hand stroking the skin. A cold, sharp pinch as a gutting knife quickly penetrates your body. Just a few more seconds now. The blade expertly guided up the abdomen. The flow of warm blood flowing over the legs. A sudden feeling of coldness as the blood drains, one last breath taken. Never exhaled.

BRB! My bacon is ready.

I’m going to feed my cat meat that I purchased at the grocery store! And share some with her!

I did! and it was delicious, because I covered the flesh with butter from its mother!

Read this exchange again and see who is fragile here. Surely you want people to eat less meat? Why would you not try to encourage that instead of behaving in this way?

Vegans aren’t the worst, assholes who behave like you and the restaurant owner are. It just so happens that an unfortunate amount of vegans are also assholes, which really makes it hard engage with you.

Lol, just keep pushing people away by being an ass then blaming everyone else. Few things you can always count on with a vegan. They’ll tell you they’re vegan, they’ll treat you poorly once they realize you aren’t one, then they’ll blame you for everything wrong in the food industry. Ugh, get a personality.

There’s a reason everyone is down voting you, and it’s not because you’re vegan. A little self reflection might do wonders.