In Melbourne we do this thing where we let developers build suburbs with zero infrastructure, refuse to put buses or other public transport in when asked because it’s “not viable”, then a decade later we will put a bus route in, but then bitch and whinge because nobody’s catching it. Then maybe 5 or 6 decades after that, we’ll order a feasibility study to see if we should build a train station there, then it’ll be deemed to expensive and we’ll wait another century before deciding to spend insanely high amounts of money on either building an underground station, or acquiring a shit ton of land.
If somebody would use their damn brains and realise it is cheaper and easier to at the very least plan for and reserve land in these new developments for public transport, and these new suburbs would stop being opened without bus stops, supermarkets, and GP clinics, we’d all be better off…
@Baku@ajsadauskas we could learn some things from China who are willing to build metro stations in the middle of overgrown fields they know will be developed in the coming years
I think metro stations are a bit overkill, especially for Australia’s cities. I’d settle for the government releasing solid plans for train lines in new areas, and developers being required to cede the land for them while building out new suburbs. As well as increasing the taxes on those developers profits, directly into a fund to pay for the line to be built.
It’s amazing how much impact the privatisation of land development has, there are missed opportunities across the environmental and sustainablity fronts.
In Melbourne we do this thing where we let developers build suburbs with zero infrastructure, refuse to put buses or other public transport in when asked because it’s “not viable”, then a decade later we will put a bus route in, but then bitch and whinge because nobody’s catching it. Then maybe 5 or 6 decades after that, we’ll order a feasibility study to see if we should build a train station there, then it’ll be deemed to expensive and we’ll wait another century before deciding to spend insanely high amounts of money on either building an underground station, or acquiring a shit ton of land.
If somebody would use their damn brains and realise it is cheaper and easier to at the very least plan for and reserve land in these new developments for public transport, and these new suburbs would stop being opened without bus stops, supermarkets, and GP clinics, we’d all be better off…
@Baku @ajsadauskas we could learn some things from China who are willing to build metro stations in the middle of overgrown fields they know will be developed in the coming years
https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/chongqing-china-metro-station-nowhere/index.html
we should stop posting one off things as examples of ‘good’ or ‘bad’. it just makes things that are actually good seem impossible to achieve.
I think metro stations are a bit overkill, especially for Australia’s cities. I’d settle for the government releasing solid plans for train lines in new areas, and developers being required to cede the land for them while building out new suburbs. As well as increasing the taxes on those developers profits, directly into a fund to pay for the line to be built.
Sounds like a standard government planning process to me. :(
It’s amazing how much impact the privatisation of land development has, there are missed opportunities across the environmental and sustainablity fronts.