Of course if you’re going to wax philosophical, what’s the difference between us and bots if we are both programmed? Maybe a bot is 100% driven by their programming while a human is 99% programming and 1% genuine creativity and intelligence that just slips through the cracks in our programming on occasion when we get particularly honest with ourselves.
It takes supreme effort to rise up from hollowing ourselves out to be a receptical for whatever authority figures want to fill us with. Why, we might have to watch a whole 5-minute video!? (Tbf, usually it takes a lot more than that, like at least 7-10:-P) It’s easier to simply parrot the words given to us by people quite a bit dumber than we know ourselves to be. They are quite aware of that, and make great use of it.
The Truth is surprisingly difficult to find, buried amongst so much active disinformation, but once we do, we can never unlearn it (…I hope, though I probably should learn to pretend like I don’t, to survive the fascist regime to come).
We shall see. I was very wrong, thinking that Hillary would win for sure. Perhaps I am wrong about this as well - fingers crossed 🤞.
The thing is, on the Right they put in actual effort to get shit done, while on the Left we whine and complain why it isn’t perfect already. Never mind actually reading a linked article, on Lemmy Reddit 2.0 here we don’t listen, we wait to talk. Correct or no, the former attitude will win the day. At least in the short term. Maybe after that, leftism will win out overall, but somehow that ends up just as another form of fascism as well (don’t ask me to explain that, I have no idea why, but I have both tremendous respect for e.g. the Lemmy devs offering their code for free while also not respect for administration of their instance to support repressive regimes doing e.g. genocide, which yeah the West is also doing genocide, but at least we the people don’t support it, e.g. by banning people who speak out against it!?).
I really wish that what you say will come to pass. But… (1) despite what happens in this next election, the overall trend is towards fascist policies, in the election after that, or the one after that, and too the entire government shutting down every single time it needs to pass a budget causes fatigue where people just lose all hope, like torture to break someone down by softening them up before the big ask; and (2) Monday’s SCOTUS ruling has already happened. We cannot go back in time, the only way is forward. I feel like people are forgetting that it happened, bc it’s just so shocking. But it did. It’s like climate change: it’s not only going to happen in the future, it’s been happening for the last decade. Do you realize that the USA is already a fascist nation, even if it has been thus for less than a week? Yeah, Biden may refuse to use that power, or perhaps he will go ahead and use it after all (quietly?), in order to keep Trump out. But either way, democracy has already failed. Our choices now are what flavor of fascism we would most enjoy moving forwards.
Edit: Sorry this is depressing. It was depressing every other time it happened to nations in the past as well. But those (nations) who refuse to learn from their history… are doomed to repeat it.:-(
The thing is, on the Right they put in actual effort to get shit done, while on the Left we whine and complain why it isn’t perfect already.
Because on the right they more fully accept a Darwinian reality that for some organisms to live some have to die.
On the right much more than on the left a typical person approaches their world as an owner or at least as a rightfully belonging cocreator. On the left we view ourselves as the oppressed, as essentially guests or as interlopers in our own world, without the right to make heavy and consequential decisions, where we have to constantly consult with all our comrades before we dare to have an opinion, etc. The left thus is more pensive and as a result, smarter, but also paralyzed, unable to act without a broad movement or a leader telling them it’s OK.
Of course all these competing qualities exist within all the individuals and it’s a question of where on the spectrum one lands.
On the left we (wrongly) think morality is the bedrock of a just society, and thus nobody is willing to be militant and ruthless and confrontational. FDR who publicly and famously welcomed the hatred of the superrich was a unique jewel of a man, who frightened the bejesus out of the system so much they had to put in term limits.
People aren’t wise enough to understand why nobody ever was assassinated or jailed for preaching or exercising morality. Monarchs are the biggest fans of morality (and religion). See Constantine’s action toward Christianity. The most humble and moral people live in Saudi Arabia and North Korea.
genocide
Islamofascism is even worse than Christofascim.
In the USA I don’t think of the servatives as “innocent civilians.” In Palestine all the Islamofascists are also not innocent civilians. They are culpable civilians.
In fact we all are culpable civilians.
That said, are there genuinely acquittable civilians in Palestine? Yes, they exist, and I lament their suffering. And only theirs.
When someone comes up with a realistic way to parsel out the redeemable individuals so as to avoid group punishment, I will support it.
I am also totally against torture, using Palestinians for target practice, bragging on Tik Tok about killing and revelling in the gore, Netanyahu’s corruption and fanatical hamfistedness, lack of discipline/professionalism and lack of accountability in the IDF, etc.
But I will be blunt. We have one Jewish state and 20-some Islamic states. For me and my world the last thing I want is for the one Jewish state to disappear and for one more redundant Afghanistan clone to appear instead.
Name me one other religion where its founder was a pedophile warlord? I dislike all religion but I will never pretend Islam is just like Christianity (which I dislike) or Buddhism.
Of course if you’re going to wax philosophical, what’s the difference between us and bots if we are both programmed? Maybe a bot is 100% driven by their programming while a human is 99% programming and 1% genuine creativity and intelligence that just slips through the cracks in our programming on occasion when we get particularly honest with ourselves.
Perhaps that’s why people often say “they are bots”, even when some are not bots, bc they might as well be?
I think so.
It takes supreme effort to rise up from hollowing ourselves out to be a receptical for whatever authority figures want to fill us with. Why, we might have to watch a whole 5-minute video!? (Tbf, usually it takes a lot more than that, like at least 7-10:-P) It’s easier to simply parrot the words given to us by people quite a bit dumber than we know ourselves to be. They are quite aware of that, and make great use of it.
It is as you say. Are you reading my mind, comrade?
The Truth is surprisingly difficult to find, buried amongst so much active disinformation, but once we do, we can never unlearn it (…I hope, though I probably should learn to pretend like I don’t, to survive the fascist regime to come).
The fascists do NOT have this timeline on lock. Although they will probably make some noise one last time before disappearing into the sunset.
We shall see. I was very wrong, thinking that Hillary would win for sure. Perhaps I am wrong about this as well - fingers crossed 🤞.
The thing is, on the Right they put in actual effort to get shit done, while on the Left we whine and complain why it isn’t perfect already. Never mind actually reading a linked article, on
LemmyReddit 2.0 here we don’t listen, we wait to talk. Correct or no, the former attitude will win the day. At least in the short term. Maybe after that, leftism will win out overall, but somehow that ends up just as another form of fascism as well (don’t ask me to explain that, I have no idea why, but I have both tremendous respect for e.g. the Lemmy devs offering their code for free while also not respect for administration of their instance to support repressive regimes doing e.g. genocide, which yeah the West is also doing genocide, but at least we the people don’t support it, e.g. by banning people who speak out against it!?).I really wish that what you say will come to pass. But… (1) despite what happens in this next election, the overall trend is towards fascist policies, in the election after that, or the one after that, and too the entire government shutting down every single time it needs to pass a budget causes fatigue where people just lose all hope, like torture to break someone down by softening them up before the big ask; and (2) Monday’s SCOTUS ruling has already happened. We cannot go back in time, the only way is forward. I feel like people are forgetting that it happened, bc it’s just so shocking. But it did. It’s like climate change: it’s not only going to happen in the future, it’s been happening for the last decade. Do you realize that the USA is already a fascist nation, even if it has been thus for less than a week? Yeah, Biden may refuse to use that power, or perhaps he will go ahead and use it after all (quietly?), in order to keep Trump out. But either way, democracy has already failed. Our choices now are what flavor of fascism we would most enjoy moving forwards.
Edit: Sorry this is depressing. It was depressing every other time it happened to nations in the past as well. But those (nations) who refuse to learn from their history… are doomed to repeat it.:-(
Because on the right they more fully accept a Darwinian reality that for some organisms to live some have to die.
On the right much more than on the left a typical person approaches their world as an owner or at least as a rightfully belonging cocreator. On the left we view ourselves as the oppressed, as essentially guests or as interlopers in our own world, without the right to make heavy and consequential decisions, where we have to constantly consult with all our comrades before we dare to have an opinion, etc. The left thus is more pensive and as a result, smarter, but also paralyzed, unable to act without a broad movement or a leader telling them it’s OK.
Of course all these competing qualities exist within all the individuals and it’s a question of where on the spectrum one lands.
On the left we (wrongly) think morality is the bedrock of a just society, and thus nobody is willing to be militant and ruthless and confrontational. FDR who publicly and famously welcomed the hatred of the superrich was a unique jewel of a man, who frightened the bejesus out of the system so much they had to put in term limits.
People aren’t wise enough to understand why nobody ever was assassinated or jailed for preaching or exercising morality. Monarchs are the biggest fans of morality (and religion). See Constantine’s action toward Christianity. The most humble and moral people live in Saudi Arabia and North Korea.
Islamofascism is even worse than Christofascim.
In the USA I don’t think of the servatives as “innocent civilians.” In Palestine all the Islamofascists are also not innocent civilians. They are culpable civilians.
In fact we all are culpable civilians.
That said, are there genuinely acquittable civilians in Palestine? Yes, they exist, and I lament their suffering. And only theirs.
When someone comes up with a realistic way to parsel out the redeemable individuals so as to avoid group punishment, I will support it.
I am also totally against torture, using Palestinians for target practice, bragging on Tik Tok about killing and revelling in the gore, Netanyahu’s corruption and fanatical hamfistedness, lack of discipline/professionalism and lack of accountability in the IDF, etc.
But I will be blunt. We have one Jewish state and 20-some Islamic states. For me and my world the last thing I want is for the one Jewish state to disappear and for one more redundant Afghanistan clone to appear instead.
Name me one other religion where its founder was a pedophile warlord? I dislike all religion but I will never pretend Islam is just like Christianity (which I dislike) or Buddhism.