• Tinidril@midwest.social
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    Fuck that “BoTh SiDeS” whining. I said no such thing. However, Bill Clinton is almost as connected to Epstein as Trump, and that’s just a matter of public record. How is it that everyone seems to forget that he stuck it in a Whitehouse Intern? Whatever else Bill Clinton is, he is a slime ball, but he is still in the bubble of people protected by the Democratic party. There are political consequences to that, whether you want to accept it or not.

    You want to offer an alternative theory about why the press and Democrats aren’t all over this story? They can’t seem to campaign on anything but how truly shitty Trump is, but they ignore this? Make it make sense.

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      Bill Clinton is old fucking news and I don’t care to engage with conspiracy theories other than to deride them

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        A weapon to destroy Trump is lying on the table TODAY and it isn’t being picked up because of that old news. That is why it’s relevant TODAY. Deride it as a conspiracy theory if you want, but it’s not the first time Bill Clinton’s dick has saved Trump in an election.

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          1. you really think a single Republican would care about this?

          2. wtf are you talking about with Bill Clinton’s dick?

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              So you’re providing evidence that Republicans give zero fucks about sexual crimes but think it’s evidence that Bill Clinton saved him. That’s a stretch to say the least

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                That’s the whole goal of the “both sides” attack, for those who do actually deploy it. It takes an issue that people might actually care about and makes it irrelevant. A Republican that cares has no reason to abandon a sexual predator to vote for another. (Or in Hillary’s case a supporter of a sexual predator.)

                Also, if anything, the attitude of the Democratic party towards Bill Clinton indicates that Democrats don’t care about sexual crimes. I don’t think it’s really that simple though.

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                  It’s weird that you’re willing to accept any rumor about Clinton as fact. Hmm…

                  The only thing I know for sure is he had inappropriate but consensual sex with an adult. It looks bad on him being a friend of Epstein but it’s also not proof like you asset it is. It continues to be weird also that you’re fixated on someone irrelevant to American politics for 20 years or more. But yeah totally I’m “protecting” him

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                    It’s weird that you ignore the power balance, and all the other credible accusations. LOL, yeah, his friendship with Epstein looks bad. I never said it was proof of anything, but it strains credulity to think that he wasn’t involved. It’s also politics, so we need Democrats with better judgement.

                    You still seem to think I’m making a both sides argument and trying to draw some equivalence. My point is that Democrats are unnecessarily burdening themselves by tacitly excusing bad behavior from it’s leadership. The Republicans are shit from top to bottom. Democrats have other choices.

                    Clinton is irrelevant in the national conversation. He is not irrelevant in Democratic leadership.

                    Epstein was connected with plenty of people from both parties, and in ways that implicate, not just associate. Bill is just the biggest example. There is no vast conspiracy to bury the story, but rather a tacit understanding in mainstream media that this story is radioactive and best left alone. Better Democrats wouldn’t have put us in this position.

                    Also relevant is the fact that Biden appears to have steered almost entirely clear of such scandal over a very long career, and he gets full credit for that. I am only aware of one purported incident, and there is enough room for doubt in it that I would defer to his otherwise clean record. Between Biden and Trump, it’s damn clear who is better. It’s just too bad that Biden is hampered in benefitting from that by a history of scandal he has nothing to do with.