Fuck everything that’s happening. I have nowhere else to fucking yell. I am so frustrated with the absolute stupidity and proud-ignorance in this world. Fuck!!!
Hang on to that aggression. Might need it later.
Like when you’re standing amongst some peers in front of a firing squad filled with fascist bootlickers.
(/s… Shit’s weird)
This is what Democrats need. For the younger generations to be the adults in the room. It’s been time for it a over a decade ago. They should have been preparing lines of succession during the Obama era.
It’s pointless posturing. Thanks to people not turning out to vote in 2022, the Republicans control the House. They’re not going to support this.
Kinda tired of this take. Corporations and the billionaires who control them have captured our democracy and they’re not going to support this either. But sure, darn those hypothetical and inevitably too-leftist non-voters!
Corporations aren’t suddenly going to stop being evil. You can sit around and blame them all you want, but that’s not going to change anything.
If a plane falls out of the sky, do you go around blaming gravity? It’s ultimately the cause, but doing so is pointless. Instead, you concentrate on the things that can be changed.
I think they want to get corporations out of government, not change the devil
https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2023/07/12/voter-turnout-2018-2022/
That’s not what the data says. Interestingly, Republicans didn’t vote more frequently than Dems.
Your own sources says that the 20% of people who voted in a previous election but not 2022 are mostly left leaning.
It also says
Citizens who did not vote in any of the three tilt Republican by 46% to 41%.
Who cares about those? If they don’t ever vote, they don’t matter. If the same people who had voted in 2020 showed up in 2022, we wouldn’t be in the situation we’re in.
There will be no 2028 election.
Plenty of dictators still have elections. Well, they call them elections at least.
So I guess it will at least be called an election.
This is the correct answer. GOP is already trying to capture enough secretary of state positions to ensure they always get 270 electoral votes.
Press freedom will be the first to go in that case.
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I WISH they had the guts to throw all those traitors in jail
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Did you take some kind of jujitsu class for trolls?
It’s funny cause the Republicans do try to do stuff like that but it usually ends up failing cause there’s nothing actually there for them to prosecute for. Look at the attempted Biden impeachment and how that floundered cause their only reason was basically well his son did bad things so that must mean Biden is connected to it. It’s almost like the reason it happens to Republicans so much and is successful is because they’re actually doing illegal stuff.
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I mean id happily look at some sources but so far all I’ve heard about Biden is the stuff related to Hunter Biden which doesn’t matter as he doesn’t have a government job and from what I’ve seen he tried to tell people he could get access to his dad for them but he wasn’t really able to. And the other thing I’ve heard was his classified documents which the difference between him and Trump was that he notified the proper authorities that he had the documents and gave them all back while Trump didn’t and when confronted didn’t give everything back and had to be raided.
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This has to be the dumbest shit I’ve seen anyone type in a long long time.
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Would it be legal for Biden to assassinate them? Asking for a friend.
Don’t ask for permission, ask for forgiveness.
And if you’re the president, forgive yourself.
Only if he orders the CIA to do it, it’s a personal act if he does it himself
He could declare the new Department of No Malarkey, appointment himself Chief DeMalarkier, and then declare a Malarkey Ceasing Spree.
Listen here Jack!
I am Jack’s mathematically flawed voting system.
I get gerrymandered, I kill Jack.
Yes
No, because if he did, he would appoint new justices that would strike down the “presidents are kings” ruling.
Cowabunga it is then
How are her feet so small??
Only in so much as the Supreme Court decides that it is “legal”.
So the details are that the Supreme Court left it open to interpretation as to what could be considered an “Official Act”. If the Supreme Court decides your murder spree is an “Official Act” you are good to go.
So if the Supreme Court Justices are conservative when Biden goes to trial, then yes, he can be found guilty.
Assassination is a good thought experiment because of this. It is literally up to “someone” to decide if X act was official.
And that someone will more than likely be the Supreme Court for a lot of things.
As much as I hate the political drama, Biden really needs to do something completely ridiculous to show everyone that this ruling isn’t sustainable.
He won’t though. And this shit will drag on and spiral with no checks.
I bet if you killed everyone on the court and in the legislature and replaced them with your personal sycophants, they would probably agree it was an ‘official act’
That’s basically the entire republican plan. It’s all spelled out in Project 2025. Literally replacing the entire government with Trump loyalists, and military tribunals for anyone who cannot be directly fired and replaced. Trump has even said that Mitch McConnell is going to be tried in front of a military tribunal.
As a note here, military tribunal means no due process, and no defense. Just straight to the guilty verdict and death penalty.
Literally anything except getting rid of First Past The Post voting. Meat is back on the menu boys!
Would it be legal for Biden to assassinate them? Asking for a friend.
I realize you’re likely being rhetorical, but in case you or any other users are actually curious, the fact of the matter is that criminal acts, including assassination, are not protected by presidential immunity. Here’s a breakdown:
Official Acts are things the President does as part of their job, like signing laws, directing the military, and managing foreign policy.
Criminal Acts are illegal activities, and they are not protected by presidential immunity. Assassination is definitely illegal and falls under this category.
The Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments guarantee due process of law, meaning that the government cannot deprive anyone of “life, liberty, or property” without fair legal procedures and protections. Additionally, Executive Order 12333, explicitly prohibit the U.S. government from engaging in assassination.
In Nixon v. Fitzgerald (1982): The case granted the President immunity from civil damages for official acts, but clarified that this doesn’t apply to everything a President does. Unofficial acts, like crimes, are not protected.
In Youngstown Sheet & Tube Co. v. Sawyer (1952): The Supreme Court ruled that President Truman’s seizure of steel mills was unconstitutional. Even though it was for “official use” and it was for “the good of the country” it was nevertheless deemed not part of his presidential powers and therefore not covered.
Presidential immunity protects certain official actions, but it doesn’t cover illegal activities. Assassination would be an unofficial act and is definitely prosecutable.
I doubt Republicans will support this. Really it comes down to if Biden is going to use his newly gained “official” immunity and look like a dictator, or if Trump gets elected who will most definitely use a cover of immunity to target his political foes. Maybe this is Democrats attempt at we tried to be civil, but you gave us no other choice.
However, this doesn’t go far enough quick enough to revoke the latest decision by the Supreme Court. What the Supreme Court has done is actually told the Jan. 6 rioters that under a Trump presidency that a dictatorship is permitted. It doesn’t matter if they are impeached, replaced or the decision is reversed. Trump will do as he pleases and point to this moment and say “look, they said it was fine and Democrats didn’t respect the rule of law.”
I can appreciate your frustration and I share that sentiment, but the Supreme Court changed nothing with the “immunity” decision. No one that follows legal procedure was surprised by this, and anyone claiming to be is either ignorant or is intentionally conflating the significance. Presidential immunity has been a thing for a long time and SCOTUS has changed nothing.
Oh really? Do you mind going ahead and sharing your law license? I’d like to ensure the person trying to give me advice right now is also an attorney.
I know links are difficult, but if you just place your cursor over that underlined portion of the text and press the left button on the mouse, it will transport you to an entirely different site with relevant information that you can debate yourself over.
Also, assuming I was a lawyer, why would I try to prove that in any meaningful way? Do you not understand the concept of IANAL? Also, no such thing as a “law license” in the US. Also also, clarifying the first three sentences of a very basic wikipedia page is hardly “advice”.
All SCOTUS did was confirm that a precedent set before Nixon still stands. This was confirmed once again by the courts during B Clintons terms. But confirming it yet again, for the third time since being set, is suddenly an affront to justice? They basically repeated themselves a third time. Then they kicked it back for the court to determine whether or not the act was official or not. Click a fucking link. Read a fucking book.
Or stay basic. IDGAS. You right now are no different in any way than trumpers who claim that trump’s convictions were a show trial and that no one was injured by his acts. Bury your head in the sand and pretend to be incensed. Or, don’t be afraid to have a little integrity. You’ll get downvoted for posting something unpopular, and you’ll have to deal with the occasional twat that’s too lazy to check their facts. But I suppose that’s the point of integrity. Doing the right thing with no expectation of reward. But the hubris of rubes can be its own reward. So thanks for that. 🙏
Except that isn’t the case at all. From the very ruling
“Testimony or private records of the President or his advisers probing such conduct may not be admitted as evidence at trial. Pp. 30–32”
Literally saying that the president is free to organize coups, organize any crime so long as it’s with his advisors or testimony it is 100% immune from evidence. Unironically this is one of the most facist shit I have ever read in the USA.
“The indictment’s allegations that Trump attempted to pressure the Vice President to take particular acts in connection with his role at the certification proceeding thus involve official conduct, and Trump is at least presumptively immune from prosecution for such conduct,”
The Supreme Court specifically even said that Trump directing Pence to refuse to certify the election was perfectly legal and 100% immune. That is an insane position. Absolutely no legal expert worth their salt would claim this was the expected result. That just means they are shitty legal “experts.” AND EVEN if a lower court decides it wasn’t official buisness of the president, as the ruling said that testimony or private records of the president or his advisers examining such conduct cannot be admitted as evidence at trial. So even if the act is found to be unofficial by some miracle by the lower courts, there would be no evidence admissible.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
While Trump celebrated the ruling, many legal and political analysts sounded the alarm about its implications, with some arguing it places presidents above the law.
Ocasio-Cortez, a Democrat from New York, wrote early Monday afternoon that she would introduce articles of impeachment against the court in a post on X, formerly Twitter.
Congress has the authority to impeach and convict Supreme Court justices, a key check on the judiciary’s power.
Only one justice has ever been impeached—Justice Samuel Chase in 1804 after Congress accused him of refusing to dismiss biased jurors and of excluding defense witnesses in two politically sensitive cases.
Even if Democrats were to support impeachment, it would likely face hurdles due to Republicans’ narrow control of the House of Representatives.
“Today’s Supreme Court decision to grant legal immunity to a former President for crimes using his official power sets a dangerous precedent for the future of our nation,” wrote House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries.
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Even if Democrats were to support impeachment, it would likely face hurdles due to Republicans’ narrow control of the House of Representatives.
What I don’t understand is why wouldn’t every single democrat support this? What better case for impeachment is there than a court that flagrantly ignores the constitution and tries to turn the president into a king? It’s beyond the pale.
Because there are some Democrats that have held on to their seats for many many years and are too fucking scared to do anything “out of the norm” because they may lose their seat. There are also some Republicans that will state they don’t like the ruling but are also too afraid of the loss of their seat to actually do anything for the country the swore to protect.
Ultimately it comes down to the fact that there are not enough brave representatives in Congress and the Senate to take on this problem. They all talk a big talk but if their actions reduce the chances of their reelection then they are out.
There are also some Republicans that will state they don’t like the ruling but are also too afraid of the loss of their seat to actually do anything for the country the swore to protect.
Any Republican that supports impeaching a right wing Supreme Court justice (let alone 6 of them) is going to be committing career suicide. It would be handing vacancies to the Democrats to fill, and potentially locking in a left leaning court for decades.
Now, obviously they should be able to put the good of the country and the rule of law above things like partisan politics and their prospects for re-election. But we’ve already had several rounds of purges on the right that have wiped out anyone with principles or conscience since those things get in the way of being blindly loyal to Trump.
Being on the right side of history takes sacrifice, often enough. Cowards.
It’s time to format c: and start again
Mmm… empty performative gesturing from AOC.
Great, what are AOC’s plans afterwards? Is she planning to resign for voting to prevent the rail unions from striking yet?
Bout time.
