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  • AnimalsDream@slrpnk.netEnglish
    8·
    3 months ago

    (Haven’t watched the video yet); As a spiritually-inclined person who is also vegan, I do think that is something that other religious people need to come to terms with. Particularly when it comes to witchy and neopagan communities, there’s too much (ie., more than zero) interest in reviving the dead practice of animal sacrifice.

    On the other hand I would like to see some data on which proportion of people in each religion are vegan. Which belief systems have the highest percentages of vegans, relative to their own populations?

    • Zoboomafoo@slrpnk.net
      7·
      3 months ago

      Which belief systems have the highest percentages of vegans, relative to their own populations?

      Buddhism and other neighboring systems tend to arrive at veganism being virtuous

      • AnimalsDream@slrpnk.netEnglish
        2·
        3 months ago

        That’s also my hunch - that Buddhism in particular has a high percentage of vegans. I still would like to see the data though.

        • anticarnist@vegantheoryclub.orgEnglish
          2·
          3 months ago

          Just to add to the mix: Third Day Adventists encourage going vegan, and quite a few of them are vegetarian. It’s not a huge religion, but I know that they’ve even been studied for their longevity.

          • AnimalsDream@slrpnk.netEnglish
            2·
            3 months ago

            It’s implicit in their stance against exploitation. A chicken, for example, cannot give their eggs to a human, with informed consent, and therefor taking their eggs is a form of theft and exploitation.

            • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
              1·
              3 months ago

              chickens can’t consent to anything at all. it’s absurd. I oppose exploiting fossil fuel deposits, but that has nothing to do with consent either.

              • AnimalsDream@slrpnk.netEnglish
                2·
                3 months ago

                Okay, but that’s a whataboutism and has nothing to do with animals. Think about the lowly bee, for example. People often get tripped up when it comes to bugs and veganism. They’re smaller, and must be dumber right? And anyway their minds work in such an alien way to our own that we can’t assume they even perceive things the way that we do.

                And yet if you poke a beehive, the behavior of its inhabitants appears to be something that’s functionally identical to anger, and they begin defending their colony in a way where they seem to be expressing something that strongly resembles a lack of consent to having their home assaulted. So even in this case of such a vastly different kind of animal it’s natural to conclude that any taking of their honey is not wanted - not consented to - and thus is a form of exploitation.

                There’s nothing absurd about valuing consent.

  • Ephera@lemmy.ml
    5·
    3 months ago

    Man, it’s been a few years since I’ve heard ‘spiritual’ people talk, and I did not miss it at all.

    • BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee
      4·
      3 months ago

      I cut ties with my very best friend, because she went from becoming vegan to believing in tarot cards to full on antivax flat earther who told me that i shouldn’t let my mom do chemo, because she has some good chrystals in like a year or two.

      I honestly don’t miss rolling my eyes all day long.

  • VeganPizza69 Ⓥ@lemmy.world
    4·
    3 months ago

    I’ve noticed the phenomenon of humans desentientizing someone by declaring them as “sacred”, which works as a prelude to “sacrifice”. Seems like some very ancient human bullshit based on objectification, but it’s not objectification for commodification, it’s objectification in the service of the ego by trying to convince one’s ego that you’re not a monster, that you’re nice and good.

    • jol@discuss.tchncs.de
      2·
      3 months ago

      Sacrifices are ways of penitence without having to actually feel bad for anything you do. Oh no, I committed crimes and sins! Here’s a goat. Conscience clear.

    • zarkanian@sh.itjust.worksOP
      8·
      3 months ago

      Did you actually watch the video? He isn’t saying that spirituality is bad. He’s saying that you should be vegan for rational reasons.

    • jol@discuss.tchncs.de
      1·
      3 months ago

      Lots of things do. Like health and the climate. But typically there’s one reason people stay vegan, while other reasons usually lead to “cheat days”.