A group of undecided Latino voters said they would vote for President Joe Biden after watching his Thursday night debate with former President Donald Trump.

A clip posted on X shows the group being interviewed by a journalist. One man said he would vote for Biden because “Trump sounded like a crazy liar,” according to Matt A. Barreto, professor of Political Science and Chicana/o & Central American Studies at UCLA.

The man being interviewed said Trump “said the same thing time after time” and was not answering questions or “saying how he would fix things,” according to a Newsweek translation.

He went on to admit that “Biden was indeed a bit slow in talking,” saying the president “has a stutter” but believes Biden explained "what he has done and what he is still doing while president.

“After being undecided for a little while, I think today, I switched to Biden,” he added.

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    People were pissed at me calling this yesterday.

    I was wondering why they all abruptly stopped messaging me a couple hours ago.

    The decided voters are where they are.

    If you’re undecided, and you watch this debate with an open mind, there’s only one logical conclusion if you want your life to get better, and that’s to vote for Biden.

    It was 4 years of trump damaging the US, telling lies and objectively being shown not to follow through on what he says, then being found liable for rape and treason.

    Even though Biden mumbled some words, his answered questions were believable because they were in line with the last 4 years of his administration, that have been great for civil rights,the environment, sustainable technology, infrastructure and the economy.

    No-brainer for the undecided.

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      Really? He shuffled on and was so incoherent I was shocked. I turned it off after ten minutes as it was embarrassing to watch. They need someone better.

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        Absolutely absurd.

        He’s been doing a great job for 4 years, standing next to dumps, who can’t string two sentences together, and being asked palatable questions that basically mean nothing, I think he did pretty well for an 81-year-old.

        Also, biden’s a great president, they don’t need anyone better.

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          I’m not commenting on the four years, I’m not American, but on what I saw. It was not a pretty sight. “pretty well…” isn’t a great measure, is it? Not many are saying he came out looking well

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            Are you going off the two five-second clips that are being repeated everywhere or the entire debate?

            For an event that means so little substantively, “pretty well” is a good metric.

            If you walk through a manure mister and look pretty well at the end of it, you’re good.

            Also, he has regular public performances before and after that event, if you watch any of those, he’s fine.

            4 years of effective administration is more significant testament to biden’s ability to lead than standing on stage next to an idiot for 90 minutes.

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              I watched the first ten minutes of the ‘debate’ and had had enough.

              I don’t know how many watched the ones prior and subsequent to this, but… 68m people (if I remember rightly) watched this.

              The past four years don’t mean much for the forthcoming election at the end of the year when the concerns of people are not being addressed, by someone who struggles to walk and speak coherently.

              https://open.spotify.com/episode/0jXKYxpaiUE5fSPyiHKnQN?si=42896b8bbce34857

              There are plenty of people worried about this, and calls for him to step down are significant. If he’s like this now, what’s he going to be like in his mid-80s? This does not look good.

              You can say: the past four years! as much as you like, it won’t matter if Biden loses, which is a more realistic prospect than it was last week.

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                Many people who didn’t watch the debate, don’t regularly watch his public appearances and read internet comments feel the same way you do.

                Calls for biden to step down are not significant in the real world, they are baseless epithets repeated on the internet by anonymous strangers or established conservatives.

                The concerns of people are being addressed, any claims to the contrary are not based in fact.

                “what’s he going to be like in his mid-80s”

                Not as important to holding the office of the President as people are misapprehending. Biden’s not a car salesman, he is administering a country, and he’s good at it. He can wear polka dot bow ties for all I care. FDR was in a wheelchair and often couldn’t speak at all.

                Anyone who believes there’s any reason to replace Biden as the presidential candidate at this point is either allowing themself to be fooled by internet trolls or is a troll themselves.

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                  Anyone who believes there’s any reason to replace Biden as the presidential candidate at this point is either allowing themself to be fooled by internet trolls or is a troll themselves.

                  What do you think now? The writing was on the wall three weeks ago.

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                    That I was right, democrats all got taken in by conservative bullying and threw away their best chance at winning the presidency with the incumbent president who already beat trrmp and gained allies and voters through progressive legislation.

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                  Calls for biden to step down are not significant in the real world, they are baseless epithets repeated on the internet by anonymous strangers or established conservatives.

                  They may not be “significant”, but you have political commentators (see: The Rest is Politics, former British MPs, a commentator and Scaramucci) thinking it would be for the best.

                  You may not think it is important that Biden is struggling to string answers together, but I assure you that the public does, of which tens of millions will have come out of it thinking: shit, the Republican cries that Biden has lost it will ring true.

                  I think your last comment is misconstruing what a lot of people think; I do not have any opinions because of trolls, I have only posted a few times here and spoke to a couple of friends (and listened to The Rest is Politics) about it… it does not look good at all.

                  He is older than my grandparents than when they passed away, and is less coherent than my grandma was, by far. There is no reason he should be in this position, the Democrats need someone better who can articulate themselves (regardless of any stutter, that is not what I’m referring to) and respond to things they have practiced on in mock debates behind closed doors.

                  The more this goes on the worse this gets for Biden; September is going to be very worrying for the next debate.

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                    “They may not be “significant”, but you have political commentators thinking it would be for the best”.

                    Yup. Insignificant performing pundits.

                    Still insignificant.

                    Trump stumbles over his words or says nonsense, was an absolute s***show of a president who constantly lied.

                    Biden stumbles over his words or says nonsense, has been a great president and has done what he said he was going to do.

                    The Democrats do not need anybody better, Biden is achieving all of his policy aims that are in line with progressives in the United States

                    If you want to see somebody tap dancing, go to Broadway.

                    As far as the administration of the country goes, Biden is doing a very good job developing and supporting civil rights, the environment, sustainable technology and the economy.

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        First ten minutes were the worst, after that Biden started to make at least some reasonable points.

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          People also seem to be completely brushing off him having a cold like it was just some campaign lie. To me that’s exactly what he looked like: completely out of it from being sick. I get like that when I’m ill and I’m not even half his age. Given his campaign events and state of the union have not been the same it seems pretty clear to me that it wasn’t simply him being old unless I’m missing something.

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        Did you see the other fucker up there? Did you hear him at all? Did we watch the same debate?

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          A little bit, he sounded less insane than usual; don’t be surprised if he’s voted in again, with this seen as one of the pivotal reasons why.

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      Two party system is too vague and horrific. Will never vote for anyone in either party.

      I might just be a drop in the pond, but I’ll vote independent for the rest of my life.

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        That’s the way, I usually vote independent.

        This time, though, Biden is doing everything I was looking for from the green party so yeah, I’m good this round.

        Do you have a single issue that you’re voting on , or is it just independent on principle regardless of the issues?

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          It’s never just a single issue, it’s a broad scope of ideas from outdated people. We keep consistently voting for people in their 70s who should retire. They don’t know what’s best for the future because they won’t have to live with the consequences of their actions.

          For the executive office at least,

          For congress, both parties taking huge swaths of lobbying money and corruption by huge corporations.

          Lobbying should be illegal and we need an age and term limit.

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            I’ve spoken to a few single issue voters.

            They might identify with the conservatives as a group, but they are definitely voting Republican for a single issue.

            One lady was abortion, and three off the top of my head were guns.

            I wholeheartedly agree and have been ranting about lobbying and term limits for ppfffff I literally don’t even know how long now.

            Lobbying is absolutely insanity.

            Term limits, age limits, like you can kind of see why those bad decisions had been made in the first place and need to be rectified, but lobbying is just insanity.

            A lot of advertising in the states is crazy.

            Like did you know that there’s only two countries in the world that can advertise prescription medicine, and one of them is the United States?

            The other is strangely New Zealand.

            Marketing medicine is bonkers, like absolutely bonkers.