Donbas has had election long before it INVITED Russia to intervene on its behalf.
Yes, I’m talking about general elections that Donbas holds here, not some specific election. The government is elected. The elected government that represents the people of Donbas invited Russia for assistance. What part of this are you struggling with specifically?
I’m struggling with you not being able to provide a date for some election or referendum from before the invasion where the people in any way would have indicated that they wish for an intervention.
As you are unable to do so, I conclude that we agree that the people did indeed not wish to be annexed, so that settles thaz point.
Seems like you’re struggling with a concept of how governments work. People elect leaders who make political decisions. Donbas has always had elections, and the elected government invited Russia for help. I hope that one day you’ll be able to grok this complex concept.
Are you saying that any action taken by an elected government, even if it e.g. goes against what was promised during the election, and even if it has only e.g. 51% support, by definition has the support of the entire people?
If you don’t mean that, then please tell me which election you think indicated that the people wanted to be invaded? Was it the 2012 parliamentary election? Some other election? What exactly about that election result makes you think the people supported the intervention? Wss it the success of some specific candidates or parties with known agendas? Something else?
If you do mean that a government always by definition can do whatever and still represent the people, does that not mean that Russia can end the war no matter the popular opinion?
It would be good to know which of these two opinions you hold.
Ok, when were those elections held. It is a simple question you refuse to answer. Can you provide a date?
Are you asking about the dates regular elections that LPR and DPR have or?
You tell me. I’ll quote you again:
So when was the election you had in mind that legitimizes the request for intervention.
Yes, I’m talking about general elections that Donbas holds here, not some specific election. The government is elected. The elected government that represents the people of Donbas invited Russia for assistance. What part of this are you struggling with specifically?
I’m struggling with you not being able to provide a date for some election or referendum from before the invasion where the people in any way would have indicated that they wish for an intervention.
As you are unable to do so, I conclude that we agree that the people did indeed not wish to be annexed, so that settles thaz point.
Seems like you’re struggling with a concept of how governments work. People elect leaders who make political decisions. Donbas has always had elections, and the elected government invited Russia for help. I hope that one day you’ll be able to grok this complex concept.
Are you saying that any action taken by an elected government, even if it e.g. goes against what was promised during the election, and even if it has only e.g. 51% support, by definition has the support of the entire people?
If you don’t mean that, then please tell me which election you think indicated that the people wanted to be invaded? Was it the 2012 parliamentary election? Some other election? What exactly about that election result makes you think the people supported the intervention? Wss it the success of some specific candidates or parties with known agendas? Something else?
If you do mean that a government always by definition can do whatever and still represent the people, does that not mean that Russia can end the war no matter the popular opinion?
It would be good to know which of these two opinions you hold.
nice straw man bud
Ok, what is the third option then?