• Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works
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    5 months ago

    Damn, guess it’s better to let the environment collapse and our species to go extinct because capitalism and money is more important.

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      I didn’t say that I disagreed with their goals. I just understand that they did hundreds of thousands of pounds of damage to those jets that will make absolutely zero difference to their carbon footprint and will probably be held financially responsible. A big win for the activists for sure.

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          With an ASBO and jail time, without convincing anyone, and hardening public opinion against their cause. A big win for the extremists for sure.

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            How does this harden public opinion against their cause? This is the type of shit we want to see. There’s a difference between this and inconveniencing those who are commuting to work.

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            How can you be sure they don’t convince anyone? I’m not sure, but I think you made that up - as it matches what you feel

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              Do you think it convinced the motorists who have beaten them and dragged them off the road by their hair? Or the people responsible for the preservation of Stone Henge? Or the wealthy people whose jets they painted? I can’t prove a negative, of course, or religion would be gone but you may be right, they may have convinced someone.

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                At least they tried, instead of just discussing the form of protest on the internet. History will prove them right.

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                  And I built a straw bale house 20 years ago that saves 75% on heating and cooling over my next door neighbours smaller house. I am making a real difference by making personal changes instead of trying to ram my moral superiority down other people’s throats.

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                    Fom the article:

                    A single flight in a private jet can easily emit as much carbon dioxide as the average annual carbon footprint for an EU citizen – 8.2 tonnes

                    Oxfam:

                    The richest 10 percent accounted for over half (52 percent) of the emissions added to the atmosphere between 1990 and 2015. The richest one percent were responsible for 15 percent of emissions during this time – more than all the citizens of the EU and more than twice that of the poorest half of humanity (7 percent).

                    I think what you built is legitimately cool but your efforts are erased many times over by a single flight these people take. I think thats enough to suggest you shouldnt empathise with the rich being given an inconvenient message, not that it was meant to change their minds, its to raise awareness in us, the general populace.

                    Also, we need systemic change, not just individual effort. We will have energy needs irrespective of how efficient we make things, and political pressure is how we will force away from fossil fuels.