The unconfirmed allegation is raising concerns that the coffee chain is the latest corporation to cave to far-right attacks on LGBTQ people.

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      shut the fuck up nazi, gay people receiving healthcare and existing in public is not radical. nor is starbucks at any risk of going broke

      they’re just scared, like target was, that you chud braindead ass nazi terrorists are going to show up and scream at their staff or shoot someone.

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      “We should stop marginalising gay and trans kids, people have the right to live their own lives” = RADICAL LEFTIST AGENDA.

      You MAGA morons do love your little slogans though, beats independent thought I guess.

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      Social movements like equality and abortion are extremely popular, both amongst the voting population and the public in general.

      Why do you think massive corporations jump on this stuff? They want the free PR so they can make more money! Corporations do not have political ideologies unless they are privately held and run by individuals–any company that has public investment is legally obligated to increase profits above all else.

      Look up “rainbow capitalism” and you’ll realize that the actual activists, the real leftists you are so scared of, don’t like what they see any more than you do, but because of the empty slogans and meaningless marketing gestures. Because it’s not real progress!

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        Why do you think massive corporations jump on this stuff? They want the free PR so they can make more money! Corporations do not have political ideologies unless they are privately held and run by individuals–any company that has public investment is legally obligated to increase profits above all else.

        Just a minor point here… corporations absolutely do have political ideologies. those ideologies are dictated, as you mentioned, by seeking profit. Which is why they interfere in politics so much- it’s less expensive for them to create a favorable regulatory frame work in place than it is to actually not be assholes. For example, one of the things that directly lead to trump’s victory in 2016, was an episode where the Koch plant in Corpus Christi, TX got dinged by the EPA back around 2000. (technically for not reporting benzene leaks. unofficially, they removed monitoring equipment and were letting that shit go. because the EPA relies on self reporting… they actually have no proof at all that they were leaking shitloads of benzene.)

        this lead the Koch brothers to back republicans basically everywhere, including Trump, where some of the stuff he actually did… involved deregulation of environmental protections. Yeah. Because not leaking freaking toxic pollution into the air, directly harming residents in the area is too expensive and too burdensome.

        edit to add: on the other end of the spectrum, you have companies taht are definitely afraid of things like climate change (and whose business won’t be adversely impacted by those regulations) absolutely lobbying for things to reduce the impact of climate change. (or, because their business is predicated on building solar or windmills, and such like.)

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          Very good points! I should have been more specific that corporations are usually not motivated by the social side of most political issues. Anything that impacts them financially, though, is certainly fair game from that perspective.

          Mostly trying to clarify that Target almost certainly didn’t have trans-oriented swimming suits for adults because the corporation or even the CEO cares about that issue in an ideological, philosophical or moral sense. They had those products because there was a market for them and they saw a way to meet that demand. That’s it.

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      Just because it’s true in your little echo chamber doesn’t mean it’s true for “the vast majority”

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          @10A

          Just accept that some spaces aren’t welcoming of your ideology and move on.

          Not all political spheres need to be “neutral and balanced” by accepting lies and bullshit spewing from useful idiots.

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          @10A

          Uh, Politics downvotes. Conservative bans.

          You think that because it appears as if there is a 50% split ideologically in the US that somehow you’re in the majority. Not only are you thoroughly not, but the 50% split is an allusion created by voter suppression and gerrymandering. And this is not opinion.

          @Girlparts @CosmicApe

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          But as you grow up, and become more conservative (like we all do with life experience)…

          I don’t accept the premise that everyone gets more conservative as they get older. That does not stand up to study as far as I am aware. Here are some example sources to back up this claim: 1 2.

          …you’ll learn that almost every adult is essentially conservative…

          By what measure or definition are you using the word “conservative” here? What is the cutoff for an “adult”, is that the same as being able to vote or are you drawing an arbitrary line at an older age? Surely you are not suggesting that “almost every adult” is a GOP voter, because even Trump would not be so brazen as to pretend there are no Democrats at all!

          …and striving to become more mature (ie more conservative and traditional) as we age.

          I completely reject the equation of maturity with “conservative and traditional”. This is just nonsense that reveals the magnitude of your bias. I am not going to argue that almost every adult is naturally more liberal or progressive, that is just absurd and has no basis at all in reality or facts.

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          Cons being absolutely batshit crazy and condescending and wondering why nobody wants to treat them with respect

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              Traditional values like what? Be specific. I bet many of us would disagree that those values are worth preserving.

              Can you cite any examples of physical violence committed by “the left” and what specific political objective those incidents achieved?

              It’s ironic that you act like the other side is unreasonable when you start with the assumption that “the left” is inherently unreasonable and impossible to have a dialogue with. You aren’t leaving any room for conversation. I am willing to listen to your arguments, but we also need to be able to “agree to disagree” without dehumanizing each other.

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              “As for your assertion that I’m condescending, I’m sorry for whatever I said that came across that way. I am praying for you and everyone else in this thread, that we may all come to be one in Christ.”

              bit of a cheeky cunt there then arent ya. i almost respect it lol

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                  @10A

                  Nope. I want you to answer it. I’ll read it. I’ll refute it.

                  I won’t convince you that your God isn’t real. Your heels are dug in and I respect your convictions.

                  But there is obvious room for you to learn and grow because no one cares that you’re gay for Jesus. We care that you are weaponized stupidity holding our country and the world back with your regressive world view.

                  @Girlparts @CosmicApe @yunggwailo

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              You regularly ‘communicate’ with a man that has been dead for over 2000 years by talking to your ceiling, because you believe that (despite being dead) he has magical powers.

              And then go around calling everyone else “crazy”.

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                  And dead people all over Jerusalem ‘rose from their graves and wandered around’… yeah… sure they did bud. Whatever you say.

                  These are Stories. Not facts, stories. Stories written for children, about magical wizards.

                  You are the literal equivalent of the kid that -actually- believes in Santa Claus and can’t stop telling everyone around him that he’s the smart one who is going to get all the presents.