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    If you save it on your computer instead of on their servers, how could they possibly be expected to analyze your data? Come on now, be reasonable!

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    But you’ll at least let us take a smaller or bigger peek right? Don’t worry we have a screen recorder ready, you don’t have to do anything.

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    Had that happen at work. I just drag-and-dropped a file into the Outlook web-UI, thinking it’d attach as an e-mail. Turns out, they recently changed that feature and you now have to drop into the right half of the area. If you drop into the left half, it uploads into OneDrive.

    I accidentally did that. The document had personal data inside. That’s a breach of GDPR. Fucking ace.

    (I’m not sure that attaching to the e-mail isn’t also a breach of the GDPR, since my company switched Microsoft 365 for various things. But yeah, I certainly would have liked a confirmation dialog.)

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      Maybe next year Xbox cloud gaming should team up with Outlook and Onedrive for the “Ultimate” cloud computing conversion feature:

      When you drag and drop a file into Outlook, Windows mail, or Exchange, the file bounces around like in the window like in the game Breakout. You can only attach a copy if you hit every word in your email message. If you let the file fall past the signature line, it makes a Onedrive link automatically.

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      My favorite Windows drag-and-drop feature is that if ever I drag a file over the left pane of Explorer on its way to another window, the whole thing freezes up for a minute or so. I think it’s polling all the network drives just in case I might decide to drop it there, and since my NAS is turned off (it broke) it just waits until the connection times out. Of course in traditional Microsoft style this locks up the UI thread. I have to remember to drag everything off to the right and then go around.

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    I once helped a person with their computer. They complained the they cant save the their photos. Well, their onedrive was filled to brim with crap, while the local 1Tb disk was empty because they had zero idea how storage and folders work. I had to explain her there is literally 1000x more fast disk space available, so please dont save into onedrive.

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      It’s not really her fault. Microsoft pushes people to use their onedrive and pay for a subscription even when people have no clue what it is or what it does. Microsoft is just insanely anti-consumer.

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        This and many others are reasons a switch to Linux has been so joyful. No more Windows trying to guilt me, nag me, push me, trick me, abuse me to use shit the way they want. It’s so much more…quiet.

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      I dont blame her tbh. I have onedrive completely disabled on my personal pc, but on my work laptop Windows defaults everything to onedrive and names the onedrive folders identically to your local ones.

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        Naming different things identically is a thing Microsoft loves to do. I still keep opening Teams or Teams instead of Teams. And I think there are at least three things on my PC called Copilot, and they haven’t even released Copilot yet.

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      That’s great unless that person’s files get corrupted/deleted or hard drive fails. Then having backups in the cloud or at least ona a device on a local network is a good idea.

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        In that case it would still be better to save locally and make regular encrypted backups to the clouds than to save everything to the cloud

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    And I also don’t want programs to throw all their crap in the documents folder. AppData is made for that.

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          Its even worse when they dont make it a hidden folder (looking at you android studio)

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            That annoys the fuck out of me. I want the folders I put in /home, not your shit. Put it in /.local or something and fuck off.

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              I believe the folder you are attempting to refer to is for all users so you probably do want to have the config in ~/.config unless you want everyone to have the same. Also /home is the directory that includes all users respective ~/ directories so use ~/ when referring to your own home directory.

              Edit I can’t figure out the formatting. My client is showing <sub> where ~ should be.

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            yup…

            .hidden file became my best friend - and a little context menu script for dolphin to easily add a file / folder to that .hidden is a thing i use way too often tbh

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          No matter the environment, it is important to dump shit wherever so the user does not get complacent.

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    Stage 2:

    Documents folder? You want to rule my whole computer, dictate some nonsensical folder structure and then you act like, out of the goodness of your heart, I can have this little set of folders, deep in your weird structure, to store my stuff? And you’re even telling me how to sort it? On my own hard drive connected to my own computer?

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      And then at some point, games started saving inside documents. Ok, it makes sense to have game save files in a user area instead of a subfolder in the game install area, but they aren’t documents. Just make a new game saves folder or something like that, don’t just stick all my game save files in the same area, cluttering up my own organization.

      Though I did solve it kinda by just making a new documents subfolder in my documents where I put my actual documents.

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        “%userprofile%\Saved Games” exists, but most games that i’ve seen don’t use it by default, or even can’t use it due to its own shortcomings.

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          Yeah, ultimately the issue is probably more about an attempt to go from a completely unmanaged file system where it was just big free for all with the hope everyone would behave nicely to a more managed design that still needed to maintain backwards compatibility with the old system where there were a slew of programs that depended on a bunch of undocumented behavior.

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      I unironically do this. There was one update that wiped one guy’s Documents/Downloads/Images/Videos. So I made my own and store my things there.

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    Adobe pulls that shit too.

    And it’s really easy to not really think about what you’re doing and accidentally save to the cloud.

    Then later wonder what the fuck happened to the file you spent three hours on when you came back from lunch.

    Fucking Adobe.

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    Luckily I’m old, so I reflexively click the save button every few minutes anyway. Great progress there, Microsoft!

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    Is there a work around? I feel like every time I figure out how to keep it from uploading and just save locally, it resets the next time I boot up. I’ve been using word because the transcribe feature is very helpful for navigating uni with my disabilities

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      Try hitting F12 to save… It should just show file explorer instead of all the cloud bs.

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    Insert “use Linux” joke. But I’m absolutely serious when I say that using my company’s M365 stuff using the web versions in Firefox on Linux is pretty pleasant.

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      Hmm, in my experience Microsoft 365 on Firefox (Linux) works horrendously.

      I’m a Firefox user, but when I need to work on OneDrive or Outlook Web I open Chrome because it works way better. And that’s a shame.

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        Nope, I’m not sure I even looked for one yet. I don’t need auto sync and/or backup for my work since that’s mostly in GitHub and JIRA and the like. But it’s still convenient to be able to throw a file in there at times.

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        When i still needed to use OneDrive I used rclone, works great and also supports most other cloud providers as well as sftp

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      “Yeah but what if someone wants to store their files in Onedrive?”

      “Well, Bobby. We ask them politely but firmly to leave.”

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    I grew up in suburban DFW, and King of the Hill is not really an accurate parody…

    It’s a documentary.

    You think I’m kidding, I am not.