• Blaster M
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    Can’t do much if the majority rule is blocking all of that.

    • @Wes4Humanity@lemm.ee
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      He should be getting in front of a camera every day and saying “here’s what we’re trying to do. Here’s why it helps you/society. And here are the assholes standing in the way”. And if those assholes are Democrats, kick them out of the party and support a better candidate to run against them.

      • @crusa187@lemmy.ml
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        Yes! This is what strong leadership looks like. We haven’t seen it from POTUS in far too long.

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        It wouldn’t matter. It wouldn’t get coverage in half the media in the country. And most people don’t even watch the media, anyway. It’ll be bullshit stories and anti-liberal memes as per usual.

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        I’m very confused. The president can’t know the composition of Congress during the campaign because all of the Reps are on the same ballot as the president. Are you saying prospective candidates should always say “If I’m elected and we have the house and Senate I will…” to cover their asses? I think most people understand those ramifications.

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          I think “most” people do NOT understand those ramifications. Maybe 33% of the population does, 33% think and want the president to be a dictator, and 34% don’t pay attention to anything at all.

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            Sure, OP is demonstrating that quite clearly, although as usual the goal is just to bash Biden (as if Trump would do any of this).

            Derp, what’s a legislative branch?

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          I think, this may make for an interesting art-statement, adding a page long disclaimer to everything a candidate says. I don’t think it will work out well, on the other hand

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      Yeah, I’m sure there was no way to either pressure Sinema and/or replace the parlementarian when Congress had the chance to do this.

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      The term benefit by definition means an advantage when compared to the ‘norm’. In places where healthcare is socialised, you don’t really have ‘benefits’ associated with your job. “Ensuring everyone has good benefits” is just socialising with extra steps.

      Good luck passing that through the current American political system. He might as well promise UBI lol, what a crock.

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    This is why POTUS elections are less important than congressional elections. They make the laws and they hold the checkbook. But fewer and fewer seem to understand that. And assume that the POTUS can just dictate those types of policy at their whim.

    You want domestic change? You want free healthcare? Cheap education? Better infrastructure? A better judicial system?

    Then vote for the people running for the institutions that can actually can make those things happen, and that ain’t supposed to be the POTUS. But evidently many, (majority?), of people can be all that arsed to bother much about the ‘Downstream’ elections.

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        Remember - Every judge nominated by a president has to be approved by the Senate. Again, it’s Congress that holds the final say in things domestic. They can block anyone they disapprove of.

      • @trafficnab@lemmy.ca
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        One single sitting conservative supreme court justice was appointed by a Republican president who won the popular vote.

        There are six of them.

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    Looks like it would be a good idea to reelecte him and give him a Democratic senate and house in 2024

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      and give him a Democratic senate and house in 2024

      He had that in 2020 and it still didn’t pass.

      There’s always some obstacle that prevents the Democrats from delivering what they promise.

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        Barely. Manchin and Sinema kept torpedoing just about any legislation that would have been actually beneficial. Though with this specific topic it appears that eight Democrats voted against it, which is still far fewer than the number of Republicans that voted against it.

        That’s not to say I’m some Democrat apologist or shill, I have so many problems with the party, but for issues like these it seems like they are the lesser of two evils and if their majority margins could increase it would likely have an effect on issues like these.

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        He had that in 2020 and it still didn’t pass.

        … except he didn’t have that in 2020… which is why it didn’t pass… what lmfao?

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          He did. Democrats controlled both the House and the Senate in 2020.

          The bill failed to pass because a bunch of Democrats voted against it.

          From the first paragraph of https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_elections :

          Despite losing seats in the House of Representatives, Democrats retained control of the House and gained control of the Senate. As a result, the Democrats obtained a government trifecta, the first time since the elections in 2008 that the party gained unified control of Congress and the presidency.

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            … And two independents torpedoed it because they ran as Democrats despite being from essentially Republican areas with one being a giant lying sack of mega shit know as Sinema.

            If you didn’t pass legislation, then you didn’t control the government. This is not a hard concept to understand. It’s one of the very few black and white ones since there is only a binary outcome lol.

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        There’s always some obstacle that prevents the Democrats from delivering what they promise.

        I mean, it’s just so weird, isn’t it? Like how it keeps happening every. single. time. Oh well, maybe if we try getting the Dems a majority, plus the Presidency, one more time we’ll get a different result. That’s a totally sane course of action, right?

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    that sub-minimum wage really hurts right about now

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      This will be unpopular:

      Before or at the same time as we fix sub-minimum wage, we need to also address the disability benefits cliff. I personally know multiple disabled people that limit how much they are working so that they don’t hit the cutoff where all the benefits disappear, not tail off. Generally these people enjoy their work and are capable of working more, but if they earn a dollar too much, they are screwed, loosing access to a number of subsidies and medical care.

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        Also the fact they aren’t allowed to save up money. I think it’s like $2k saved up and they get cut off. That’s not even enough for first last and security deposit if they wanted to try and move to a better situation.

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        I recently read an article describing how when disabled people have too much in their savings accounts or try to pay off outstanding debts, they are ordered to repay years worth of benefits. We can fix this! Peer-reviewed study after per-reviewed study (in theory and practice) has shown it costs less to just do the right things and look after each other (whether we think it’s deserved/earned/insert other term here) or not. We can fix it. It’s a matter of rolling up our sleeves and consistently apply pressure in proper spaces.

        Direct action, mutual aid in the meantime. For everyone.

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        Before or at the same time as we fix sub-minimum wage, we need to also address the disability benefits cliff.

        Agreed, especially the bolded part. There’s absolutely no reason we can’t do both.

  • @RampageDon@lemmy.world
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    Banned from the news communities so they take their propaganda to other ones where people might not know them. A majority of people don’t like Biden, he’s hit an all time low in popularity. You on the other hand have an anti Biden agenda. Hopefully mods of other communities catch on. Tired of calling out this bs in every thread.

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        News and politics made a new rule that it’s fine to post negative articles, but when it’s all you post about one politician multiple times a day they consider it propaganda and pushing an agenda. The mod team has a better explanation than me but that’s the basic gist

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            Biden isn’t a king. Again I am not a fan of him either but let’s not pretend that he can just snap his fingers and make these things happen. He’ll need support of the house and senate, which we know isn’t likely. I don’t see any critical posts about the voting system in America from you which would actually allow you to vote for someone you liked. It’s just anti Biden.

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              Not sure it’s just anti-Biden but people do need to understand on matters like this, they need to mentally apply an asterisk that says “subject to approval by Congress.”

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              Poor Biden, he would actually do something about this agenda, but then the republicans might yell at him. Sorry kiddo, nothing he can do - vote harder next time lul

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            It’s frankly laughable that you pretend your firehose of anti-Biden posting is somehow not pro-Trump, despite the reality of our binary system. The only logical conclusions are that you’re an idiot—which you don’t appear to be, based on what I’ve seen—or that you’re a cryptofash.

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                No my point is they have a very obvious agenda. Being critical of Biden is fine. They aren’t critical of any other Dems just Biden. They don’t offer solutions, just anti Biden. They don’t talk about how first past the post voting is why we are stuck with candidates we dont like. It’s like 40x anti Biden posts a day. We get it they don’t like Biden, I don’t either, but you don’t see me making it my job to shit on him every chance I get . His approval is dropping below 30% so a majority doesn’t like him, but it’s what we’ve got currently.

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                  Still boils down to wanting them banned from every instance because they keep pointing out valid flaws in Biden which dnc has ignored for years.

                  Also news subs banned a different user that was doing what you said should be done so forgive me for thinking that would change anything.

    • @njm1314@lemmy.world
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      You know I used to feel this way too about that user. But when you start looking at their posts, you’ll notice they just post a shit ton of stuff all over the place. I think it’s less targeted than you think it is. The vast majority of their posts are innocuous and just plain news based.

      If they have a bias, well so do most of us. If they’re using absurd sources that’d be one thing I guess, they’re not however. They’re mostly posting mainstream news articles or direct Tweets in this case. That’s not against the rules. If you don’t like what they’re posting just downvote it and move on.

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        He openly admitted his bias and agenda. Now after getting banned he’s trying to cover more things to make it not so obvious.

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            Afaik he was banned for spamming (as in an absolute crap ton) anti Biden content. I believe the mods said “go outside and touch grass”.

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              Specifically accurate content that was anti-biden, but he got a temporary ban for flat out saying he was intentionally only posting anti-biden content

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            they were biased so politics and other comms hate to do the right thing and ban them

            His bias was saying he looked for negative Biden news. Which would have been perfectly okay if a republican

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          A simple look at their Post history shows that they’ve always posted in a variety of communities. It’s simply not true what you’re saying. When having a conversation about undue bias being intellectually dishonest really hurts your credibility.

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            First, a variety of communities is not the same as the same as solely anti Biden content. Second, I’m just saying what the mods said (and what he admitted himself), I’m not investigating it myself.

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              I’m not sure if you read my comment right because that had nothing to do with what I said, or even what you said in the previous comment.

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        My issue isn’t the sources. The issue is we vote in a 2 party system. You can be critical all you want of a candidate, but at the end of the day you only have 2 real choices. A vote for third party is essentially not voting and that only hurts one of two parties. We saw what happens when people protest vote. So when 90% of the posts someone make are against one of two candidates and ignores obvious flaws in the system that lead to a lot of the criticism someone is posting it’s no longer just being critical. It’s an active campaign to dissuade people from voting for 1 of 2 candidates. When you only have 2 options and you are so adamantly against one you are pushing people to vote for the other.

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          If you start Banning people because the majority of their posts, or not even a majority just a number, are critical of a singular candidate I think you’d be banning a lot of users who post anti-trump stuff. I might be among them.

          Also there is no rule that says I have to constantly be making post that talk about the flaws of a system that is in no way a reasonable stance to take. What’s posted is content. That content might be about flaws of the system, but the idea that we have to post certain topics to meet a certain threshold to be allowed to post is absurd. I’ve never posted a single link about the flaws of the system. Should I be banned? Have you?

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            All I said was I hope other mods catch on to the very obvious anti Biden agenda. I’m not pushing for them to be ban everywhere idk why everyone is focusing so hard on that point. It was bad enough they weren’t allowed to post in news community anymore, and now it’s flowing into other communities.

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              You on the other hand have an anti Biden agenda. Hopefully mods of other communities catch on. Tired of calling out this bs in every thread.

              Sounds like you want mods to prohibit him from posting.

            • @njm1314@lemmy.world
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              A simple look at their Post history will show you that they have always posted in a variety of communities and this is not a new phenomenon. I would also again Ask Why having an agenda or a biased matters. Most of us do clearly. This is an aggregator website. We just post content, there is no duty to being biased free in our posts. That a number of a person’s post hold a bias, not even all or even a majority of said posts, is irrelevant. Someone should not be banned because you don’t like what they say.

              Hell I’m only on this site because I was banned from Reddit for saying the only place a fascist belong is hanging from a gas station. Cuz Reddit admins are super Pro Nazis.

        • @zarkanian@sh.itjust.works
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          If I wanted to protest vote, I’d write in Mickey Mouse or something silly like that. I vote Green because I believe in the candidates.

      • @return2ozma@lemmy.worldOP
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        I just always thought the upvote and downvote buttons sorted posts out. There’s been a few very vocal users on here that really hate whenever I post any news that’s critical of the Biden administration. I’ve received DM death threats over the posts. I just don’t understand it because all anyone that posts does is just paste a URL and post it. It’s not like I wrote the articles.

  • @Psythik@lemmy.world
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    I can’t live on $15/hr. I’m barely scraping by at $18. Minimum wage now needs to be closer to $25-30/hr.

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      $15/hr was the demand over a decade ago. The buying power of the dollar has maybe halved since then. When it’s finally achieved, it’ll be paraded around as an accomplishment by politicians who waited until it became too little too late and corporations will use it as an excuse to jack up prices even further.

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      I’m 38. Make 29/hr. I’m fortunate enough to own my home, well rather renting from my bank for the next 16 years. Anyways, I’m barley getting by as well. Between my car payment and the mortgage it’s nearly impossible to get by as a single income household. I can’t even imagine how bad it would be if I had kids.

      It’s to the point where I’d consider dating someone just to cut the bills in half.

      Lol… not seriously, but definitely maybe

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        Poly lifestyles are gonna get more common, since soon you’ll need three incomes just to survive!

      • @Psythik@lemmy.world
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        You should consider it. If I didn’t have a girlfriend, I would be homeless cause nothing is affordable at $18/hr when you’re alone.

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          Don’t get me wrong my guy, I’m trying. Dating apps are tge worst. I go through cycles of meeting someone on apps, dating them for a year then they dip out. I’m not so niave to understand that I need to work on myself so I can eventually be a good partner to someone, and I’m doing just that. Therapy yoga meditation etc. However, unfortunately I fear the only way to meet a genuine partner is to meet them while emerging myself in my interests and meeting someone while doing so. However it’s tough out here

          Not trying to sound conceded but I’m handsome and have no problem finding dates, but I’m tired of one nighters. I know the issue of me not being able to settle down with someone lies within me. I’m working on it and hopefully I’ll rope in my forever partner someday soon

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            Dating apps are garbage. Never had success with them. They’re designed to keep you on the platform for as long as possible, so if you find someone you’re obviously not going to continue using it. You’ll never find love on a dating app.

            The only way to go is organically. Like you implied, you need to go out and meet people. One thing that works for me is to always put on a smile in public, even if you’re miserable (I know I am). It’s makes you more approachable. In my last two relationships I didn’t even have to do anything because women asked me out. That’s how I met my current lover, and we’ve been living together for 4 years now. But for what it’s worth, I’m attractive too. A solid 8.5.

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        I saw a meme recently about being polyamorous just because of the financial benefits of having multiple incomes. I’m already poly, but I can see some monogamous poeople considering poly relationships because of money issues.

        It’s terrible that it happens that way sometimes but there’s some truth to that meme.

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        No no you don’t understand!!! We don’t need to call out him promising things and then not even asking for it in office!! HE’S NOT TRUMP!!!

        You’re a russian bot, or worker, or something, we’re the good guys, and that means blindly supporting the default option!!

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      Today I Learned that official statements and campaign promises from Biden are in fact now Republican propaganda. My favorite one is when Republicans made Biden said he would fight for abortion rights and queer protections.

      Like mate, is calling out “Hey they didn’t even push for this once in office to the same political party” propaganda? Or is it just going “Don’t believe everything you hear from a politician, even with they are the lowest bar of ‘Not Dipshit Trump’”?

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          “You can push Biden left when we win.”

          “Okay. Hey he’s in, I want to push him left and call his racist actions and policies what they are.”

          “Why do you hate America? Why are you a Russian agent?”

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        Other people in the thread said minimum wage didn’t pass in the Senate.

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          So he made a promise he couldn’t keep. He didn’t try to win over the members in congress, or talk about it publicly why it’s the fault of Republicans, and not him.

          That’s a cool guy. Remember when FDR just did nothing in Congress to push for Social Security? Or Minimum Wage? That was so cool of him. I especially don’t remember him making any fireside chats to the public talking about what would best for America and how you can help it.

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            Dude this is how Congress works. The president is not a king. Congress passes laws, not the president. You campaign and then you try to fulfill it, but if Congress blocks you there’s not much you can do

            If you haven’t noticed, the right wing today is not the right wing of 70 years ago. They will gleefully burn everything to the ground. The GOP even shut down the government under Obama.

            So now the question is what can you do. You vote for the Dems. You give them actual control in all 3 houses. Give them consistent and overwhelming victories.

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              I live in California and I vote Democrat. I vote in primaries.

              The house and stats assembly where I live in republican redneck territory. The dipshit known as Kevin McCarthy was my rep. 65+% of all votes.

              I fucking hate Republicans.

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      Relentless, isn’t it. OP can’t be this dumb, right? It has to be on purpose.

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        Most of it is on purpose, and a good portion is useful idiots parroting propaganda they heard. Trump, the Kremlin, and a bunch of other powerful sociopaths love these threads.

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      Why is Lemmy like this? This is half of what I see whenever I see people criticizing Joey B on here.

      Why can’t people dislike and vote against Trump while also wanting to hold Biden accountable for his words/actions?

      I see such a large majority of people who vote Dem/have blue/left values on here and I seriously doubt posts like these are going to change their minds. People just want to vent their frustrations with what many consider the only option they have.

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        Let me add to that.

        “During a close election with extremely high stakes, why would we not post misleading criticism about our own candidate?”

      • Zeppo
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        Your questions and concerns have been discussed many times. Not sure why this concept is new to you.

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    It’s very weird to want strong benefits from your employer and not simply as a separate thing. Maybe that’s not what he meant but the way it’s listed is vague.

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      Systems like that are very hard to change for some reason, so it can be impossible for one politician to rewrite the whole system. It’s a lot easier to modify the system slightly so people can get closer to the bare minimum when total reform is off the table.

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    I love the mixed levels of irony here. On the one hand, it’s been 4 years, so it looks like a failure. At the same time, $15 just isn’t enough. What a joke. Also at the same time, if he could actually push hard on raising the minimum wage now, he could probably drum up some votes in the election.

    It’s cool that all of those facts are at play in this one little statement.

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      Unfortunately, even if there was a dem majority all around, I don’t think we’d get a sufficient boost to minimum wage. $15 on the federal level would definitely help, but the only realistic way to get what we’re due is unionizing and starting co-ops. Luckily, that’s become more popular lately.

    • It isn’t enough in some areas, and arguably too much in others. There’s just too much diversity to have a reasonable minimum wage.

      I say:

      • abolish the minimum wage
      • require tips to not be considered compensation at the employer level (employee reports, employer isn’t aware)
      • create a Negative Income Tax or Universal Basic Income that varies by region based on local standards of living (my preference is to convert Social Security into such a system)
      • bust up monopolies that kill small businesses

      Crappy wages are a symptom that can’t really be solved by increasing a minimum wage.

      • People will put change into a jar at the front of a cafe if they want, usually a dollar or so. Sometimes the money is for a charity run and not even for the cafe. At a fine dining restaurant yes you’d probably tip for great service.

        At a bar for instance you wouldn’t tip. That would be strange.

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        As someone who works for tips in catering, I’d quit the moment tips stopped coming in. $15/hr minimum wage made sense in 2019, today my family would be fucking homeless even with my wife working full time, and I live in a fairly low CoL city. I’d literally be better off not working because daycare costs almost the same amount that I would make.

        Meanwhile I’d have to deal with the stress of 5 assholes every day who think it’s ok to order $500 worth of food a piece with 2 hours of notice. No thanks.

        The restaurant industry would come to a grinding halt.

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          Maybe I don’t know… maybe restaurants can charge actual cost for food and labour and pay people their worth… but nah, just pass on the cost to the consumers by blind charity.

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            Exactly, charge me what you need to to pay your employees what they’re worth.

            Shit, I’d take paying them enough to go back to the way it was before anything less than 20% was taking food out of the server’s mouth. 0% fuck you I’m never coming back. ~5% substandard. 10-12% acceptable. 15-20% excellent.

          • Then you’d cry that your food is so expensive and your service sucks since the wait staff would be cut in half, or the restaurant will just go out of business and you’re left eating at a chain restaurant that serves you microwaved meals.

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              Why would people cry that the food is so expensive when it costs the same as after tipping?

              Tipping is a horrible experience for everyone besides the restaurant owner

              • You’re wrong. Tipping is great for the server. If your server sucks, you don’t tip as much. If you don’t tip, your server isn’t making nearly as much therefore isn’t going to give a shit, and there will be less servers because of payroll so your experience is going to be shit.

                You would have to pay your servers at a bare minimum 20 an hour more than they get now to keep any of them and most would leave with that. Average time sitting and eating is an hour. Your food is now going to cost you at least 20 bucks more. Profit margins don’t care about your feelings and either do shareholders. You weren’t going to tip 20 bucks on 50 dollar meal were you?

                My wife was a bartender at a corner bar and cleared 2500 to 3 grand per weekend. I was a part time waiter and made more than my buddy that was a full time union electrician. Make that shit hourly and it won’t be worth putting up with the Karen’s and Ken’s.

                • @CasualPenguin@reddthat.com
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                  It’s a terrible experience. You made a bunch of common mental gymnastics that are somehow supposed to justify why the patron deciding the salary of the restaurant’s employee is better than the restaurant being responsible for pay and quality of their employees, we’ve all heard it before and it’s nonsense.

                  But hey, if you are suggesting it we can agree to advocate for not tipping at all if patrons don’t think it is deserved.

              • Your food will cost more than 20% more, there will be less waitstaff, and the waitstaff that is there won’t give a shit because they’re hourly and making a fraction of what they did with tips.

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                  The more nonsense that people like you say the closer it makes me to abstaining from tipping so I’m not contributing to such an ass backwards system people bend themselves over backwards to defend

                • @piccolo@ani.social
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                  113 days ago

                  Then pay waitstaff more. They should not need to rely on generosity of big tippers… just make everyone pay the true cost of prepared food.

        • @grozzle@lemm.ee
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          you don’t seem to have considered that your profession exists in every other country, and in your nation’s peers, your peers in the same profession are less miserable than you seem to be.