It’s just so sad how broken the US voting system is. In Finland we have a population of ~5 million, and we have 9 parties currently in the parliament out of a total of 16 registered (the rest just didn’t get enough votes to make it into parliament this time 'round).
Y’all have almost 350 million people and 2 parties, neither of which seems to have much interest in getting rid of first-past-the-post. The really sad part is that Thomas Jefferson independently came up with a voting method that’s identical to the d’Hondt method that’s pretty commonly used here in Urop and proposed that the US should use it, but if I remember right he was veto’d by Washington for whatever reason
This is about moving things left. (Not that thing you try to change it to.) If you want things to move left then you have to give Dems consistent and overwhelming victories.
Yes… a split center party will have some go left, some right, some center. So long as we consistently vote in left of current republican authoritarians then we’re good. Any scenarios with the death of American republicanism is good
You can talk about recounts and courts all day long and at the end of the day, guess what? We did not have President Gore. He lost. Thanks 3rd party voters!
Unless you reply with someone tangible, go ahead and play repeat. 3rd party votes do not work. In fact they are counter productive. Ciao.
This is why people on the left need to vote. The GOP falls in line, and they chip away every decade just because they show up.
You want things to go left? Vote. Every. Single. Time. For. Dems.
(Also known as: They vote. Are you?)
I vote Greens as much as I can but you try convincing 300 million people that there’s more options than genocide enabler and convicted felon.
Ok I’ll clarify my previous message. Vote for Dems.
Where would we be if Gore had won? 3rd party votes do not work. In fact they are counter productive.
It’s just so sad how broken the US voting system is. In Finland we have a population of ~5 million, and we have 9 parties currently in the parliament out of a total of 16 registered (the rest just didn’t get enough votes to make it into parliament this time 'round).
Y’all have almost 350 million people and 2 parties, neither of which seems to have much interest in getting rid of first-past-the-post. The really sad part is that Thomas Jefferson independently came up with a voting method that’s identical to the d’Hondt method that’s pretty commonly used here in Urop and proposed that the US should use it, but if I remember right he was veto’d by Washington for whatever reason
No thanks, I’m good.
This is about moving things left. (Not that thing you try to change it to.) If you want things to move left then you have to give Dems consistent and overwhelming victories.
But this would kill the Republican party and then likely split the Dems in two. Is that really what we want?
Yes… a split center party will have some go left, some right, some center. So long as we consistently vote in left of current republican authoritarians then we’re good. Any scenarios with the death of American republicanism is good
al gore did win
Did we have President Gore? Unfortunately no.
it wasn’t decided by votes. it was decided by courts.
Again, did we have President Gore? No we did not. He stuck his head left and bam lost the election. Thanks 3rd party voters!
it wasn’t decided by votes
You can talk about recounts and courts all day long and at the end of the day, guess what? We did not have President Gore. He lost. Thanks 3rd party voters!
Unless you reply with someone tangible, go ahead and play repeat. 3rd party votes do not work. In fact they are counter productive. Ciao.
Courts wouldn’t be involved if it hadn’t been so close, so yes it was vote related
this can’t be proven. courts may have become involved anyway, for some other reason. you can’t prove a counterfactual.
OK sure but thy point is the reason they were involved is the vote was so close, meaning that wasted votes did matter very much
Once we have ranked voting, sure.
But for now, with First Past the Post voting, blue is the better route.
Voting blue isn’t going to get us any closer to ranked voting either.
EDIT: Skill issue. I made an assumption.
Can you prove that?
Maybe you should vote for more than just the president…
Huh, I guess I should have googled it first. I just assumed that blue would oppose it because fptp keeps them in power too.