I’m using EndeavourOS with KDE.

The display is correctly oriented when logged in but it doesn’t rotate correctly when I’m logged out.

EDIT: corrected the post. This happens when logged out, locking the screen has it displayed correctly.

  • AnIndefiniteArticle@sh.itjust.works
    2·
    5 months ago

    Thanks for pointing out that in this case the DM is using X regardless of whatever graphical environment gets loaded when the user logs in. This really is a moot point/discussion. I’m still glad I raised it to get perspectives like yours.

    You’re right that I should play around with wlroots a bit more. It’s been a while, personally. Mostly because it’s been a while since I’ve had time to just play around with my system. My life is at a point that it looks like I’ll have that free time soon, for better or for worse.

    I’ll note that I do like alternative init systems for diversity and competition and because systemd was very hungry and rigid. An init system is also a bit more fundamental to system stability than a display server, so I think it’s reasonable to be critical of systemd and Wayland for contradictory reasons. Systemd has also come a very long way in the past decade plus. I have also seen it learn from the other ideas implemented in its competition, mirroring your argument. Diversity and unification are not at odds with each other, but are different parts of the same cycle of improvement.

    • LeFantome@programming.dev
      3·
      5 months ago

      You left a very gracious reply so let’s not fight.

      I see a certain amount of irony in the overlap between the group of people ranting that Wayland has too many implementations and the group demanding more implementations of everything else. So that was my point.

      Certainly we can agree though that there is nothing wrong with demanding more of both.

      One my favourite new distros, Chimera, uses both Wayland and dinit (and Turnstile ).

      I am interested to see where the diversity that Wayland provides goes actually. Have you seen this?

      https://github.com/CuarzoSoftware/Louvre

      • AnIndefiniteArticle@sh.itjust.works
        1·
        5 months ago

        Thanks for the leads and the good conversation. I have found that being an idiot in public and then deescalating is one of the fastest ways to gather information.