• SOMETHINGSWRONG@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    I find it interesting how many self identified leftists are cheering and welcoming a racist and corrupt cop as president of the United States.

    Like, this isn’t even about the whole “anyone but trump” or “vote 3rd party” war.

    The crowd claiming to be the left are just straight up cheering for cops.

    Fascinating how I see the left continually blamed for not meeting Dems in the middle with that 1930s Germany copypasta and yet it’s only one of them constantly shifting right.

    Since apparently a rabid mob comes up every time someone touches this topic, yes I understand what’s at stake and will be voting accordingly.

    I’m sure all these self proclaimed leftists will be there to advocate for the local socialist parties after we secure the presidency right? …right?

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        I have some reservations (need to research her more) as she was relatively progressive in an American context it seems.

        If anyone has more starting points for my research, I am absolutely open.

        However, for the moment she’s a “NO” from me. Even at the most forgiving judgements, it seems she sent away a whole bunch of poor people and did nothing about the system that is driving them to crime.

        Ah also her weird racism, nepotism, and stances on LGBT issues. Who refers to art in their home by the ethnicity of the artist???

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          Another one for you. As a Californian, we knew she was bad. That’s why she dropped out polling 5th in the primary.

          The Human Costs Of Kamala Harris’ War On Truancy. The “progressive prosecutor” wanted to transform how California responded to students missing school. Parents like Cheree Peoples wound up paying the price.

          https://www.huffpost.com/entry/kamala-harris-truancy-arrests-2020-progressive-prosecutor_n_5c995789e4b0f7bfa1b57d2e

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            Good info on her background, thank you! As a former Orange resident this is especially disappointing to read this story and how the mother and child were treated.

            Harris has since replaced her punitive stance with the message that parents of truant children need help, not scare tactics. It’s a shift that happened roughly in step with voters’ waning tolerance for using the criminal justice system to address complicated social problems and Harris’ own preparations to seek higher office.

            Emphasis mine

            She’s a cop, down to her core. She’s got the mentality that “I can fix social problems through the threat and use of coercive state violence”. That was her law, that she asked for, I assumed drafted/guided, and defended publicly… until she ran for the Oval Office, and was made to choose compassion.

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            It was wild to see how fast the hype around her candidacy deflated. Admittedly, I got wrapped up in it up until I heard her talk for the second time.

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          She did something about the system. She defended it. On two occasions she opposed the release of people who had convictions overturned by demonstrating actual innocence to appellate courts on the basis of legal technicalities, in both cases her office argued that they had waited too long to file a petition to be released. Her office argued against the release of inmates eligible for parole after a federal court ruled that the extreme overcrowding in California prisons was cruel and unusual on the basis that releasing the prisoners would reduce prison labor.

          She helped with a cover up of an employee at the state crime lab who falsified testing results. The truth came out after the employee was arrested for stealing drugs from the lab and hundreds of convictions were overturned. She defended a police detective that falsified a confession to coerce a defendant into accepting a plea deal. She opposed requiring police to use body worn cameras. She opposed legislation that would have required her office to review police shootings.

          She consistently declined to investigate allegations of police and prosecutor misconduct including police shootings of unarmed people. Eventually she had to for the police, it got to the point that the justice department eventually stepped in to investigate an incident where a group of officers surrounded a mentally ill man with a steak knife and shot him 21 times after Harris refused to review the case. While she cooperated with the federal investigation into the police shooting, she backed the prosecutor who had his entire office removed from a case because of proven misconduct including hiding exonerating evidence.

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          Racism really? You mean being positive about being black? I only ever see bigots referring to black folk as racist.

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        She had a history of horrible policies.

        The idea that voters vote based on policy rather than loyalty is totally incomprehensible to the Democratic party.

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          They keep saying that Democrats fall in love while Republicans fall in line, but clearly haven’t internalized it.

          Because Republicans clearly love Trump, and Democrats keep ordering their base to fall in line.

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      You realize you are part of the rabid mob too then? Instead of listening to people with which you mostly politically agree, you immediately resort to shitting on and scapegoating them by jumping to a wild conclusion. This type of rhetoric is equally unhelpful.

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        And that’s a fair assessment as well. It is a scapegoat to say those folks don’t support other leftist policies.

        However I must disagree that my conclusion was wild.

        My train of thought is, people say they support making peoples lives better and implementing policies proven to work and be more cost effective.

        When it comes time to ‘nut up’ and do it, their chosen representatives roll over and compromise and refuse to use the same governing tools used against them to stop the rise of fascism.

        Republicans famously grind the country to a halt with a minority. It’s their whole shtick, and yet they sail through these fascist policies nationwide with no fighting back from the Feds.

        Is it truly that like minded when the purpose of a system is what it does, and my fellow patriots choose the continued decline of society driven by capitalism?

        This, I believe, is the source of this leftist’s anger. Open denial of genocide by party leaders, while capital interests make life shittier literally every day, and no way out between “shit choice” and “literal fascist”.

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          My stake is that democrats aren’t Nazis. They just dont mind them very much. In fact your political opponents being actual nazis improves your election chances.

          There is no left wing in American politics.

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      I love it when assholes refer to the Black and Indian woman as a racist. You could say someone of color is bigoted, but racism requires institutional control, and as far as I know black people don’t have that kind of power. I would know I go to all the meetings, they have all you can eat catering.