They’ll fall into the trap of never creating a proper ending aren’t they?
Well it is a fallout show
I’m imagining a series finally like a weird mixture of Clue and Fallout 4 where the last episode has four possible endings and three are basically the same and they’re all shown.
Stop, I can only get so erect!
The horse will be pâté.
A big theme I’m hoping to see in season 2 is to see what their take on New Vegas’ ending would be in the show.
Todd Howard already said that they aim to be as ambiguous as possible and not canonize any of player’s choices. It will probably be “yeah there was a big trouble here a couple of decades back but it’s all ancient history now so who cares”. And the town’s leader will be some schmuck who hasn’t even heard of Mr. House.
“mr. house? well that sounds fancy, most people are lucky to have a shack!”
This series would be ripe for new plot and characters every season Fargo style. Too bad they’ll never do it.
That seems the pattern, especially with comedies. I get the sense Netflix (any streaming platform really but especially newcomers Netflix and Amazon) seem to be quick to cancel a streaming show for any or no reason.
Yup
I don’t think you get a $153m budget without expecting it to be popular.
A big budget doesn’t guarantee success though. See LOTR series.
of course, but that’s not the point. the point was making a popular show was absolutely their goal, not sure why they feel the need to posture about being “surprised”.
They may have been expecting it to be popular, but less so than it actually was.
By most metrics the Lord of the Rings show was very successful. Now none of those metrics mean much to you or me, but they do by the people who sign the checks I think.
Or “Citadel” for that matter, which apparently cost $300m
Second season comes out in August. Popular enough to keep spending money.
In the end, there’s no way to show is a streaming show is popular. Unlike movies, it’s all hidden.
I just hope it doesn’t overstay its welcome like just about every show these days.
Amazon will cut the budget every consecutive season.
You can’t tell me you’re not excited for Days of Our Fallout featuring the inevitable Lucy, Cooper, Maximus love triangle. I personally can’t wait for the day when show creators have Lucy, a woman scorned, running straight into the arms of Super Mutant BigDick. How can you live without the drama of each of the main characters acting irrational over a meaningless event that could have been avoided with a clear line of questioning?
Yup, I’m gonna need about 15 seasons of low-budgeted, poorly-written, Producer-vetted BS that Amazon will be sure to bring to the table
Planning 4 additional seasons worries me. That’s a lot of story and actors to plan.
As a huge Fallout fan since the aughts, I was pleasantly surprised. The show is faithful to it source material and nails tone the games are known for. Some cameos helped the with dark humor. Story was interesting too, especially the b plot about the vaults.
Nobody uses aughts the way they ought to anymore.
Edit: Apparently I have not used Ought to the way I should have. TIL
That article is confusing, the title suggests there’s a difference in how “should” and “ought” are used, but besides the fact that “ought” sometimes comes with “to” there doesn’t seem to be one.
The usage of ought is perfectly cromulent. I’d’ve cut the sentence before the “to” -it’s punchier that way. Dictionaries are descriptive and not prescriptive. Fuck the man; write beautiful words.
Yeah, in the Midwest ought or ought to and should are the same thing pretty much no matter what.
:)
Do the episodes get better after the first few, or is this just not for me?
I’m universally hated for this opinion on Lemmy, but the whole season is a solid “meh”. But it is a consistent “meh”. If you didn’t care about the characters and plot points in the first two episodes, they’re not gonna get any better. There are two or three outrageously bad scenes later in the season, like truly atrocious writing and awful acting, but they come and go very fast, you won’t notice if you are not paying attention, and they end up not affecting the plot ending.
Kinda figured that. It’s too bad, I’m a huge fan of fallout. I’m just not suited to modern drama.
There is plenty of humor mixed in with the “drama” if you can call it that. I guess the ending was a bit dramatic, definitely left me wanting but I think it was a good place to leave the story for know. I feel it takes the source seriously, while also taking the goofiness of the gameplay seriously as well. It gets better throughout, there are a few campy scenes but again fallout is a bit goofy. The violence mixed with soundtrack has always felt light and cheery somehow, almost maybe what being a bit crazy from living in the wasteland would make most people. Also sometimes the first season of shows haven’t quite hit there true level of quality yet, so far I think Fallout is closer than most out of the gate. Between The Last Of Us and Fallout, both shows have nailed down their universe and tone almost perfectly.
Part of my issue is people said amazing things then I just couldn’t get into it.
I’m also old and grumpy.
I did enjoy Twisted Metal though.
I can relate when things get overhyped I tend to avoid them until I haven’t been forced to hear about it for awhile, some things it’s been months or years, some I may never watch.
It’s not a drama though, the drama is tacked on to fulfill the Amazon Prime Template and drive views from people unfamiliar with the IP. It’s mainly a comedy. It’s just, the jokes are a very mixed bag. They did nail the tone and background of Fallout, but I didn’t find it that funny overall, and when the jokes are bad, they are really bad (like middle school yard comedy level) and suck you out of engagement with the story, which the writers desperately want you to still care about. The thing is the drama is also mid. Often I would have to consciously ask myself “wait, are we on a drama beat or a comedic bit?” To adjust my expectation for the scene, as it can be quite the whiplash, they rarely transition smoothly from one to the other, and they have the same overall tone so they blur and you don’t actually know immediately.
I know it’s not actually a drama, but I meant more what you said much more eloquently: I don’t like current show Templates much.
When the dude wiped his dick on the curtains, I knew it truly was a fallout show.
Also, best subtitle ever:
Make 5 seasons then end it. Nothing worse than shows that go on too long then start to become shit.
I feel like they really only had 2 great seasons. Now we’ll have 4 mid ones instead. Greed fucking sucks
coughSupernaturalcough
Better than Green Arrow by a country mile
i’unno, never seen green arrow.
Have they fucked up their power scaling so bad that they had to make god himself the enemy, and invent a being stronger than god to defeat him?
Less power scaling than retreading the same “flashback to that time I was trapped on an island” about three seasons past it’s expiration date.
I can’t upvote this enough. I love limited or mini series for this very reason. There are too many shows that just coast after creating an idea or mystery where even the writers themselves have no idea where it’s actually going. These type of shows survive off cliffhangers and shock events and would continue on forever so long as people are watching. I really wish more shows would just end tieing up all loose ends before the final episode. If the show is that great they can start a new story arc either with the original characters or a spin off in the same world. Any show that requires a cliffhanger to keep people engaged isn’t great to begin with and will likely end in viewer disappoint. That’s just my opinion though.
I would be more worried that they give it the Westworld treatment.
Okie doke
I wonder how many creators are taking less money to get better support at outlets other than cancel-happy HBO and Netflix? Five seasons is a great deal if it works out for them.
I can’t be bothered to watch any series on netflix that are not finished with a proper ending for this exact reason. Fuck them for not giving shows actual endings and just cancelling them.
Same! Netflix has trained me not to even watch new shows until the show has a proper finale. Fuck em for making so many throw away shows just to pump thier numbers.
Same goes for Google, it doesn’t matter what miraculous app/hardware they dream up with, cause those fucks are no better when it comes to abandoning thier work. It’s all pump and dump after the quartler numbers are out.
Enshittification is getting out of control.
Part of that is on the show runners and writers. Netflix makes decisions off of viewership and other metrics, it’s the show runners that decide to have seasons end on cliffhangers
Netflix could always tell the show they aren’t being renewed and give them the opportunity to wrap things up. Even if it’s just with a two hour movie. Traditional networks frequently do this with shows. It would also make better sense because if the back catalog of shows on a streamer don’t end properly, no one’s going to subscribe to watch them.
It’s been said many times before, but I would absolutely include an escape clause (?) in any contract with them, that sets aside a portion of the budget for a “wrap up” mini series/feature length episode/or straight up movie.
Sometimes it’s the enjoyment of what happens in a show that makes it enjoyable, or the just the actors giving a great performance with what they get, regardless of when executives want to cancel it cough firefly cough. I do agree it sucks but sometimes it’s still worth the watch is all. Maybe they’ll realize errors if enough people watch the better stuff even if unfinished in the future, but doubtful. Also I’m a Stephen King reader so used to not so great endings heh but the middle parts can be awesome at least.
Watched the first season before Amazon added ads to their streaming. It was pretty decent. Not decent enough to watch ads or pay more.
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If they could commit to just five seasons it could be a really good show, but if they plan to try to keep it going and milk it, it’ll be complete garbage by season 3
It really depends. If they go more of an anthology route it will be easier to not tank it. (Not saying they wouldn’t still manage to.)
Wait people are actually watching this I thought it was just getting morbbed
It’s a pretty good TV adaptation of the games.
I thought so until the last episode. That one brought the rest of what they had done way down (for me).
What the hell is morbbed
when people like something as a meme but take it so far that it makes others mistake it for a genuine wave of appreciation. like Morbius
I genuinely loved Morbius, no cap, it gets a yearly rewatch
Wow someone who really liked morbius and the Halo show. You might have to worst taste I’ve ever heard of.
…how? I genuinely cannot conceive how someone can enjoy that movie.
I thought it was a neat movie, I thought Matt Smith gave a more vulnerable performance than I was expecting, and I was prepared for garbage, and was pleasantly surprised. Compared to 90% of the shitty repetitive boring superhero movies, to me Moribus beats most of them by a mile. I also really loved BATTLESHIP, and that too gets a yearly rewatch.
Gaslighted into thinking a bad movie is good.
It’s…ok. keep your expectations low and it’s pretty watchable.
The HALO series was surprisingly good.
I didn’t realize today was opposite day.
I really like the HALO show, both seasons, but thought FALLOUT was better by ordinates
Maybe stop listening to rage baiters on YT.
I haven’t looked into it at all other than passing posts I don’t care about
They started with an already well detailed, quite deep, world (including already having various stories), which already had quite a number of fans (thanks to it being in a series of Role Playing Games - which is pretty much the kind of games closest to a TV Series or Movie), didn’t fuck it up by writting a bad script, didn’t fuck it up by getting bad actors and didn’t fuck it up by being cheap on FX.
It’s not exactly surprising that it was a success…
It’s maybe a little optimist at this point to expect at least 5 seasons - mainly because that’s plenty of time to fuck it up, especially around the point when the initial story either wraps up or gets boring, which is were plenty of great TV Series turn to shit - but yeah, so far so good.
I wish for the Horizon (Zero Dawn) series to have that kind of luck with good story/writing, acting, and FX… then I always remember that it’s Netflix making it and get disappointed every time.
Hard pass.
Feel the same. Thought the 1st episode started strong and by the end I didn’t care to see what happens next.
I though the writing was so bad. Only the franchise carried it over being forgettable. I mean the black main character is so badly written, most of what he does doesn’t make sense if you look further then some very flat character development. I hope they can improve and remove some of the cringe elements. I love Fallout, but it has a diffent humor, the show didn’t manage to replicate much.
I watched 40% of the second episode, holy shit was that writing just awful. I stopped watching after they get attacked in the cave. One of the worst directed scenes I’ve ever watched. The tone is just all over the place, is it funny? Is it scary? What the fuck is the acolyte doing? What does he want?
That whole episode (up until I stopped watching) was just such a disaster. I don’t know what any of the characters want or why I should care about them.
Classic. Downvoted comment expressing dislike of popular thing with no comments responding.
I’ve only watched one episode but I thought it was ok. There were multiple badly written cringe moments and I thought the director really dropped the ball by not focusing on Lucy in order to end the episode with the wasteland reveal. Cutting to the brotherhood half way through her story was a terrible decision in my opinion. The tension of what’s waiting for Lucy in the wasteland is completely deflated before we get there because we’ve already seen that a society of some sort exists.
Overall there was a lot that I liked and I thought it could have been a lot worse. I like the opening even though I thought it was a bit overindulgent. I liked the casual inclusion of a non-binary character (made me reflect on Fallout’s representation as a whole which I feel like is pretty bad in that department?). I appreciated the attention to detail, I don’t really give a fuck if they stick to any established lore, I just want to that a lot of care and attention went into the world building. And I liked the fact that the violence was a good balance of cartoony and serious.
Anyways, fanpeople gonna fanpeep. People fucking hate when you dislike something they see as above criticsm. For example; Rogue One is a bad movie, Arcane is mid, BotW is mid. :^)
What is your sperm count?
If the other seasons are as good as the first season I’m all for this. Adaptations of game franchises can be hit or miss but this was really well done.
I think it would’ve been even bigger if they released it weekly.
