It looks like the internet archive is needed assistance, I just heard about this today and figured lemmy could help spread this message around

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      It feels better than doing nothing.
      If you can convince yourself you’re not doing nothing.
      I’ve never been that good a liar.

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        Large petitions also serve as a way of getting the word out.

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          Yep. Petition gets large enough for media attention, word is spread, MAYBE people get active.

          But Then police beat on them, Trump supporters defend the corporate interests of their supreme lord, it all goes down the shitter anyway.

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                Ok…so I don’t get your point then. Your previous comment heavily implied it’s all pointless.

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        I don’t know.

        I still think there’s at least some value, even if the only thing it accomplishes is getting people to talk about it. Many people have never even heard of The Internet Archive.

        Either way, there isn’t really a reason not to.

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      Only things that are effective are better than doing nothing. Doing ineffective things only gives a false sense of accomplishment and thus reduces the incentive to try harder to be effective, which means they’re actually worse than doing nothing.

      Online petitions, “free speech zones,” and other easily-ignorable things are like honeypots for activism, designed to neuter it.

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        Sure, but “effectiveness” is usually not a binary and is often difficult to measure. Small, but persistent changes should still add up. Eventually.

        So long as people recognize that these things are in fact quite toothless, I’m not sure they are entirely detrimental. There’s no reason this couldn’t be used as a starting point for more effective action, now that signatories are in greater contact with the campaign.