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    You’re projecting. All liberals don’t blame progressives specifically for Republican wins.

    Some may wedge party divide, but most simply blame abstainers.

    A record 55% of registered Democrats voted in 2020 to barely secure the win.

    https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2023/07/12/voter-turnout-2018-2022/

    Voting isn’t putting your name on every action of the elector. It’s simply the most effective way to push the nation in one direction versus the other. Sometimes you vote for an elector, sometimes you vote against one, but you should vote regardless.

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      You’re projecting. All liberals don’t blame progressives specifically for Republican wins.

      I doubt that very much, but let’s say it’s true. I’d wager that you can’t find an outspoken progressive who hasn’t been blamed by a liberal at one point or another for the loss Clinton earned.

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        Hillary Clinton is not a liberal. She’s a centrist Democrat.

        Even if she were, she hardly represents all liberals.

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            They’re the bulk of Democrats, between centrists and progressives. Whether they’re more conservative than progressives and more liberal than centrists on social or economic issues depends on the individual.

            It’s the same on the right with centrists, conservatives, and MAGA Republicans (far-right). They have far fewer centrists and far more conservatives than the left has centrists and liberals.

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          Hillary Clinton is not a liberal. She’s a centrist Democrat.

          Her supporters called her a progressive. She called herself a progressive.

          “Biden is the most progressive president since FDR” is regarded with skepticism from the left for some reason.