• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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        Yes, the one that has said for 50 years he will always support Israel no matter what…

        Like,remember when he had that falsified report claiming no evidence American weapons had been used in the genocide?

        He said that was why he could keep providing munitions…

        Then there was an indisputable evidence of American munitions used in Raffah…

        And he’s done…

        What exactly?

        Besides continuing to break US and international law by providing munitions used in a genocide.

        Biden can draw asany lines as he wants, Bibi seems to enjoy leaping over them immediately. And it’s not like Biden has anything else he could be doing.

        Edit:

        Did you even read that two sentence article?

        It doesn’t really provide any info, so not sure why you’re linking it.

        But Biden’s “deal” is literally what Israel wants, it’s not even a permanent deal…

        And Hamas isn’t accepting that, they accepted a deal that leads to a permanent ceasefire, not a 6 week pause.

        That’s what Biden is pushing, Hamas gives up everything, and Israel tries to avoid killing civilians for a month and a half.

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          Did you read about the Trump peace deal (organized via his kids!), which would require only Palestinians to make concessions, giving up land, giving up freedoms, being subject Israel’s security forces, giving them no rights, and which gave all power to Israel (and which obviously fell through)?

          Biden applies political pressure on Netanyahu to push for ceasefire:

          https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/06/02/israel-hamas-war-news-gaza-palestine-ceasefire-biden/

          Trump plans to pressure Palestinians:

          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_peace_plan

          The plan proposed a series of Palestinian enclaves surrounded by an enlarged Israel,

          Netanyahu announced that the Israeli government would immediately annex the Jordan Valley and West Bank settlements while committing not to create new settlements in areas left to the Palestinians for at least four years. U.S. Ambassador to Israel David M. Friedman claimed that the Trump administration had given permission for an immediate annexation, stating that “Israel does not have to wait at all”

          The plan itself places no conditions on Israel with regard to proposals to “annex parts of the West Bank”.[8]

          The plan puts the Palestinians on probation, establishing a set of conditions they must meet and adopting Netanyahu’s view that a shrunken Palestinian entity will be a state in name only; Israel will control of its borders, air space, electro-magnetic spectrum, foreign policy and security

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            Yes…

            It’s bad when trump supports a genocidal regime…

            It’s bad when Biden supports a genocidal regime…

            Now, here’s the big one. Get up and stretch, take a nice long deep breathe.

            Ready?

            It’s bad when literally fucking anyone supports a genocidal regime.

            Here’s another big one:

            If you excuse Dems for doing something because trump does it too, then if you don’t slow down and look around, you’re going to be supporting someone just like trump, because republicans found some asshole even worse.

            Republicans won’t magically get better

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              I don’t excuse the dems, but you refuse to accept that Trump is 10 000x worse

              Netanyahu would not be angry at Biden for his demands if Biden was fine with everything they do.

              Netanyahu would not prefer to have Trump back if the two were equal.

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                but you refuse to accept that Trump is 10 000x worse

                No I don’t, because he obviously is.

                It’s just neither of them are good enough to be president.

                Like,you know there’s not really a valid reason to run unpopular neoliberals just because trump is in office right?

                We could just runnwhat Dems historically do very very well with:

                A young charismatic person running a progressive campaign.

                There is literally no reason to be running someone the majority of registered Dem voters don’t want to be president, just because they don’t want the Republican.

                How does that system make any logical sense?

                How will shit ever improve?

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                  Ok, then tell me who that candidate is who can win instead of Biden.

                  I’m waiting.

                  I am not super fond of Biden, and wouldn’t mind seeing him replaced. But my top priority is harm reduction, and switching to a candidate who can’t beat Trump would send USA into turmoil

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                    If your top priority was harem reduction you wouldnt be supporting the one causing the most harm right now. And not just Palestinians, us included

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            Biden has helped clear away 115 sq miles of Gaza land for Trumps kids. Its fucking insane how groups if people will overlook whats actually happening and be terrified of what might happen,

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              Have you seen Trump’s history of actions? It’s not what “might” happen, it’s a certainty he’ll make it worse

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                Yes, and I’ve also seen Biden’s history of actions, evidence that neither one of them represents the working class.

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                  Biden who canceled tons of student debt and supported unions, not supporting the working class?

                  Do you favor the Trump who supported companies above unionizing workers?

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                    Appearing for an arranged photo op doesn’t make him anymore union than Trump’s photo op at a church with a Bible made him Christian. Biden still answers to capital first and leaves us with table scraps.

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          The Biden who had nothing to do with this article but you felt the need to bring up just to shit on anyway?

          We all get it dude, you hate Biden. You can stop mentioning it in every fucking thread.

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        We are talking about the biden that is only talking peace deal to save his election. We all know he wont follow through with it and Israel has already said they dont approve.

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          Politicians are mostly assholes. We got this one to move in the right direction… his opponent is still advocating for “ending the war quick” and would likely start sending over war-crime munitions.

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            Out of one side of his mouth, Biden talks about peace out of the other side of his mouth, he talks about sending more money and weapons. One side is lying and it’s not the side about sending money and weapons

            We got this one to move in the right direction

            What direction is that, he didn’t listen when they said defund cops, didn’t listen when we said universal healthcare, didn’t listen when we sent cease fire, didn’t listen when we said expand marginalized rights.

            So what direction did you move them?

            edit sp

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          Can you provide a link to this “save his election” Idea? I’m having a hard time finding anything that’s communicating his thoughts about that.