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    Or you know, maybe people staying home because they can’t support a genocide, the death of the nation or the comedy option of a dude who cheated on his wife so hard, while on heroin, as worms died in his brain of mercury poisoning…

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        You have to recognize how absurdly fucked this logic is, right? “You have to vote for the guy currently in office who is actively supporting and supplying genocide or else you support genocide.”

        I’m not saying don’t vote, but I am saying that if you want to convince anyone who doesn’t already agree with you then you need to find a different tactic.

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          This. I cannot morally support any of them, I’m left without a choice but to be berated by the “lesser evil” crowd. I can’t support evil anymore, I have no love for this broken shithole country and would leave in an instant were I not trapped here.

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                Then stop bothering the rest of us who are trying to make things better. Your whining from the peanut gallery is annoying. You aren’t going to get any sympathy for your bitching here.

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                  I mean, I already have, this isn’t the echo chamber you think it is, and it makes me feel better so if my whining is causing you pains, feel free to ignore or block me.

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                My assumption is that you are white, middle class and cishet male. Because you can apparently afford to give up.

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                    my sincere apologies for what I am causing you.

                    Do you seriously not understand the implications of a Trump presidency for women, queer folk, transgender folk and minorities? The environment? Years of at least some progress on progressive policies? The minimum wage? Social Security? Democracy itself?

                    We don’t even have to speculate - they’ve literally told us what they are going to do.

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        Maybe I should turn myself in then, there are so many crimes I don’t commit that I must be responsible for.

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      Or you know, maybe people staying home because they can’t support a genocide, the death of the nation or the comedy option of a dude who cheated on his wife so hard, while on heroin, as worms died in his brain of mercury poisoning…

      I’m glad you have such a privileged life that you can afford to make such choices. Good for you! But many of us are not in that position and are really counting on not having an authoritarian regime hell bent on erasing us.

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        I mean, the fact that incrementalism has once again led us to a situation where we’ve got no choice but to desperately save democracy yet again, hasn’t made you wonder…

        We’re in a situation where a literal cartoon villain (see Bloom County) who’s also a 34 time convicted felon, is within a hair of becoming president. In a functional society this would be too ridiculous for even a movie plot. But instead we’ve got Joe, happily cheerleading another genocidal war, alienating his base and the future base of the Democratic Party. Why do I prefer him again?

        I started this cycle in the same mindset you are in. I just can no longer give my support to any of the horror shows that we have to choose from. I don’t think things will improve under Biden, I do think they will be worse under turnip but I also believe that if we elect him, we absolutely deserve what’s coming.

        Maybe I’ve been listening to RATM too much lately but I just will not lift a finger to support this evil empire.

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          incrementalism

          I have some bad news for you. It’s called “reality”.

          So while you stamp you petulantly stamp your feet waiting for that big sweeping and most importantly instantaneous change to which you feel you are entitled, whole categories of people face an existential threat. It’s not all about you.

          I do think they will be worse under turnip but I also believe that if we elect him, we absolutely deserve what’s coming.

          I take it you are oblivious to the contradiction here?