• jballs@sh.itjust.works
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      I’m sure eventually someone will make a bot called something like ai-explains-the-joke that does this automatically.

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      The majority of people right now are fairly out of touch with the actual capabilities of modern models.

      There’s a combination of the tech learning curve on the human side as well as an amplification of stories about the 0.5% most extreme failure conditions by a press core desperate to feature how shitty the technology they are terrified of taking their jobs is.

      There’s some wild stuff most people just haven’t seen.

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        I can just as well say that the screenshot above is the top 0.5% pushed by people trying to sell the tech. I don’t really have an opinion either way tbh, I’m just being cynical. But my own experience with those tools hasn’t been impressive.

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          At a pretrained layer, the model is literally a combination of a normal distribution curve of capabilities.

          It can autocomplete a flat earther as much as a Nobel physicist given sufficient context.

          So it makes sense that even after the fine tuning efforts there’d be a distribution in people’s experiences with the tools.

          But just as the average person’s output from Photoshop isn’t going to be very impressive, if all you ever really see is bad Photoshops and average use, you might think it’s a crappy tool.

          There’s a learning curve to the model usage, and even in just a year of research the difference between capabilities of the exact same model from then to now is drastically different, based only on learnings around better usage.

          The problem is the base models are improving so quickly the best practices for the old generation of models goes out the window with the new. So even if there were classes available I wouldn’t bother pointing you to them as you’d just be picking up info obsolete by the time the classes finished or shortly thereafter.

          I’d just strongly caution against betting against the tech’s continued capabilities and improvements if you don’t want to be surprised and haven’t taken the time to look into them operating at their best.

          The OP post is pretty crap compared to the top 0.5% usage.

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            It really does depend on what you ask and how, I can get some really nice music recommendations from Chatgpt but it also cannot comprehend GURPS skill rules, it’s actually funny how it manages to get it wrong a completely different way each time

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        At the risk of sounding like a tech bro who’s desperately trying to secure funding: this truly does feel like a major leap in technology that is going to change the world.

        Anytime I hear it dismissed as “basically auto-complete”, I feel like it’s being underestimated.

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          It’s not just underestimation, it’s outright misinformation.

          There’s so much research by this point over the past 18 months that there’s an incredible amount going on beyond “it’s just a Markov chain, bro.”

          It was never a Markov chain as that ignored the self-attention mechanism which violated the Markov property. It was just some people trying to explain it used a simplified description which went viral.

          Sometimes talking to people who think it’s crap feels like talking to antivaxxers. The feelings matter more than the research and evidence.

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          Its kind of funny because autocomplete on phones is definitely moving in the direction of using LLMs. Its like it wasn’t true when people started saying it, but it will be literally true in a couple of years at most.

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        I mean it still parsed the specific text in the meme and formulated a coherent explanation of this specific meme, not just the meme format

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                Man the models can’t store verbatim its training data, the amount of data is turned into a model that is hundreds or thousands of times smaller than the original source data. If it was capable of simply recovering everything that it was trained on this would be some magical compression algorithm and that by itself would be extremely impressive.

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                    Oh ok, you want to claim this is compressing the entirety of the internet in a model that isn’t even 1 terabyte of data and be unimpressed that is something.

                    But it isn’t compression. It is a mathematical fact that neural networks are universal function approximators, this is undisputed, and analytic functions are continuous so to be an analytical function approximator it must be able to fill in the gaps between discrete data points by itself, which necessarily means spiting out data outside of the input distribution, data it has not seen.

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                They do not store anything verbatim; They instead store the directions in which various words and related concepts relate to one another in some gigantic multidimensional space.

                I highly suggest you go learn what they actually do before you continue talking out of your ass about them

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                  If you trained a GPT on a single phrase, all you’d get out of it would be the single phrase.

                  The mechanism of storage doesn’t need to be just the verbatim source material, which is not even close to what I said.

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                    You said it matches text to its training data, which it does not do.

                    Your single-phrase statement only works for very short, non-repetitive phrases. As soon as your phrase repeats a token more than a few times, the statistics for the tokens change and could result in nonsensical output that repeats through subsections of the training data.

                    And even then for that single non-repetitive phrases, the reason you would get that single phrase back is not because it would be “matching on” the phrase. It is because the token weights would effectively encode that the statistical likelihood of the “next token” in the generated output is 100% for a given token when the evaluated token precedes it in the training phrase. Or in other words: Your training data being a single phrase maniplates the statistics so that the most likely output is that single phrase.

                    However, that is a far cry from simple “matching” against the training data. Which is what you said it does.