• Ibaudia@lemmy.world
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    Protesting police brutality respectfully and nonverbally

    Telling young women that they will only be truly happy if they are homemakers during their commencement ceremony and that anything else is “diabolical lies” meant to have you stray from god’s path

    How are these in any way equivalent

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      They aren’t equivalent. And to conservatives, the second one is to be praised and the first one is to be damned.

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      One of them is professing a personal belief elevated into the national discourse by an individual at the end of his athletics career. The other is a sponsored advertisement by the ruling elite voiced through a paid shill, as a means of self-promotion. That’s really the nut of it.

      Butker sits on the board of a private home schooling program that directly profits from the reactionary turn against public education. He’s filling the proper American role of getting that bag. He’s giving these speeches and cultivating a social media following in order to pitch more of his Christian flavored self-help materials. He’s got investors who stand to make a mint themselves, and so use their connections to boost his media presence. All for the aim of separating fools from their money.

      Kaepernick originally filled that role as a QB, when he was quietly tossing a ball around for the entertainment of high dollar ticket holders. But as soon as he started taking a knee and yapping his yap, he cut into people’s bottom lines. The NFL leadership didn’t like their image as apolitical national past time infringed. The police and national military didn’t like one of their major advertising and recruiting partners going off script. The sports news shows didn’t like the possibility of losing advertisers.

      The real equivalence is in the flow of that $$$

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      Kicker for the US football team Chiefs based in Kansas City gave a commencement speech where he laid out a bunch of misogynistic and homophobic bullshit including the equivalent of “women belong in the kitchen” and is getting defended by conservatives as speaking to family values or whatever they call that bullshit now.

      Sounds like you know about the guy on the right already, but for anyone else that might not know he was simply kneeling to bring attention to racism and was vilified by those same conservatives.

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          While race certainly played a part with the reaction to Kaepernick, that doesn’t mean this guy got a free pass for being white. Conservatives would have defended someone of any race who spouted misogynist word vomit.

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              They defend him because they like the idea of shooting liberal protesters in the street. “Murderer” is not a mark of shame to them.

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                I do love how they defend him in part by saying he killed a convicted sex offender as if he could have possibly known that and as if that were his (or anyone’s) job to do.

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                That’s because for Conservatives you’re allowed to take lives to protect property. You are not allowed to damage property to protect lives.

                Really shows where their values are.

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            You are not wrong, but I think you are missing the point a bit. What everyone in the thread is saying is that he got no pushback from conservatives. And instead they are defending him like they are in a cult lol. So the fact that normal people like us do attack him, like he deserves, is beyond the point of the conversation.

            I’m assuming you are just confused here lol, maybe you are trolling to derail the conversation. That’s why people are downvoting you, sadly a lot of people who argue in bad faith sound like you.

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            “attacked”=people online expressing (strong) disagreement with his words. Poor thing, how will he ever recover with his millions of dollars and sheltered life! Get back to me when he’s run out of the NFL for his words.

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        Almost makes you associate racism and misogyny with the conservatism ideology…… almost. I’m sure a few more instances like this will solidify it for more people? Maybe?

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        They can’t say Christian values anymore, so they say family values. Anytime you hear family values, they mean Christian values.

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          Family values, common sense, freedom caucus, and any other thing that sounds like it should be positive but is run by conservatives is the opposite of whatever the name is.

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        Don’t forget the other crazy part. His own mother is a medical physicist that is the complete opposite of his definition of what he believes women should be. I was going to say those head injuries are true, then I realized he is only a kicker…

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      A kicker in American Football, who recently gave a speech at a Catholic College and said women will find more joy and fulfillment from being a stay at home mom than in a career.

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    It’s right in the name. Conservatives want to preserve the status quo. Injustice is part if the status quo. I’m no logician but I think that means they’re on team injustice.

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    “Free speech” isn’t the problem though? Butker has a stupid worldview, and Kaepernick was raising awareness of a real and important issue.

    They can say whatever they want without retaliation from the government, and that’s freedom of speech. Freedom of speech is not freedom from ridicule or consequences from other people.

    It’s not some fundamental question if rights. It’s very simple: your ideas are shit, so we don’t like you and think you should shut up.

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    “Free speech” is code by the right wing for more of their cancel culture. They want to silence criticism. For them “free speech” is a one-way street meant to force you to listen to their bullshit.

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    In all fairness though. One was litteraly invited to speak. And I haven’t heard anyone call him brave (though I am sure someone somewhere did). So I don’t blame orgs like the nfl and such having little to say. And frankly we should be talking more about the place that thought it was a good idea to invite him to speak… avoid graduates of that place like they have the plague.