• stanleytweedle@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    All fine and good in the primary but relying on the electoral college and other blue voters in your state to let you send a ‘message’ is dangerously stupid and pointless in any presidential election, and doubly so in 2024.

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      For the record I have only ever personally expressed how I will likely vote for Biden if he makes it to the general. I just understand the ‘message’ people are trying to send and don’t think it is worth trying to stifle or suffocate.

      (That and I thought Panel 2 was referring to a third party voter at first, but the feathers are already ruffled now.)

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        6 months ago

        I understand the ‘message’ people are trying to send too. I don’t have any capacity to ‘stifle\suffocate’ that ‘message’- but I don’t mind telling them they’re just tossing away their only real political ‘voice’ to shout into the void.

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          I dunno. Biden went from ‘no upper limit’ on children and civilian death in Gaza and ‘no chance, none’ about a ceasefire to calling for ceasefire a month after the Uncommitted campaign and recently aired conditioning aid. I don’t think it is mere coincidence, but I get there’s strong pushback on that idea. Though I think calling it shouting into the void is a little bit stifling.

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            I think that was in part the change in the ‘war’ and his growing agitation that Bibi was saying one thing and doing another. There are a lot of gears turning to prevent a lot of what we’re seeing, and then you’ve got a single, final soundbite which is all most people know of it.

            I would agree it has had some effect, at least in the messaging. I would disagree we can afford it at this time though. Nationally. With a corrupt demented orange rapist in the wings.

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              And that’s arguably true: maybe Biden would have done nothing different than he already has if everyone shut up about the matter in Gaza.

              I don’t see it, but I accept that it’s a possibility. I’ll hear that argument.

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            6 months ago

            Though I think calling it shouting into the void is a little bit stifling.

            I’m an anonymous stranger on the internet, it’s completely your choice to be ‘stifled’ or not here. That’s kinda pathetic.