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    For people who say you should read the contract before agreeing to it. What about the hundreds of thousands? No, millions of people buying new windows laptops every year. Are they presented with any kind of agreement? I don’t think so.

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      They are. It is a huge problem that companies are allowed to do clickwrap bullshit with no human-comprehensible summary. But people are agreeing to this stuff.

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    Maybe I’m missing something, but what is the damage in this screenshot?

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        Ah, the light blue between the 2 lines is background usage? I wouldn’t know, I use Arch btw :3

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            how do you manage your system setup?

            btw, moving from arch to pop is strange, you’re supposed to go Gentoo or NixOS or LFS…

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              Nix was my next plan lol. My last distro suddenly had some file system corruption problems mid week when I needed it, so I had to switch to something quick without much time for configuration. So I decided to go for a preconfigured distro.

              My next plan is Nix when I have some time.

              As for how I back stuff up for frequent distro hopping: Firefox login syncs my browser stuff and passwords, steam syncs my game save files, I backup my home folder to a USB once in a while so I don’t lose any local documents. I have private GitHub repos for some window manager, bar, etc configs I’ve made like sway, i3, polybar, awesomewm, etc., that I use when switching to more barebones distros.

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    Pretty funny how it says “Unauthorized access” right below screenshots of features clearly being enabled.

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            I keep flip-flopping between Kate and pycharm community. I prefer Kate’s LSP access, but pycharm’s management of multiple projects is great.

            I wish I could easily set up Kate so it would open random text documents in a separate session from my session that’s running a certain project. And I wish it were aware of whether a session is running on the same activity. (In fact what I’d really like is per-activity Kate sessions).

            Trouble is, I’m not good enough at C++ to make a merge request for those features.

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              You guys are using graphical IDEs and text editors? I’ve been learning to program in neovim.

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                With 20+ years of using various Unix OS’s as my primary OS, I can say for sure that my answer to “vi or emacs?” is “neither.”

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                  Tbh, it just fits my workflow better. I would find myself editing stuff in nano more so than something like vscode because navigation in a file browser gets a little clunky for me. So it seemed fitting to learn neovim. I find the features more of a nuisance than a benefit at this stage and I want to properly understand how to use the underlying technologies these programs extract away.

                  I typically know exactly what I’m looking for and if I need more help I could check something out like fuzzy find. Those search boxes on file browsers are hit and miss for me, especially with Dot files. I store my scripts in a folder called .scripts and I reference them alot while building my apps.

                  Actually most my apps start out as scripts because prototyping is easier when you don’t initially worry about UI or optimization and focus on the core functionality.

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      From my experience Windows have this system program called “CompatTelRunner.exe” that run silently in the background maybe once a month it’s send data to M$ and using a lot of CPU power while collecting data, now with Al being pushed to windows who knows what it could be doing in the background without user knowledge

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    I agree with the general sentiment but it literally says it will update outside of active hours. So as non-disruptive as possible.

    And the privacy toggles are set when you install the OS. You can untick all of them the last time I checked.

    Sorry for being such a pedant

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      but it literally says it will update outside of active hours.

      Yeah, but it lies.

      And the privacy toggles are set when you install the OS. You can untick all of them the last time I checked.

      But a future Windows update will reset them without informing the user.

      Microsoft respects user choice about as well as Republicans respect voting rights.

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        Has what you said been proven and documented anywhere? All I can find is threads of people claiming things, but no actual (investigative) journalism that covers these parts.

        Toggling on data collection without informing the user would mean billions of dollars worth of fines in Europe, so I doubt that happens regularly. Still, I don’t mind being proven wrong if you got the proof to back it up

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          Toggling on data collection without informing the user would mean billions of dollars worth of fines in Europe, so I doubt that happens regularly.

          More like a few thousand euros symbolic fine and an angry letter saying “don’t be an ass again pls our infrastructure depends on you” after years of blatant abuses and anti-consumer practices, followed by an ambiguous law (with positive effects affecting only european users) they will definitely not manage to circumvent withing the next week and a half. Not this time 🤡.

          The problem here is the fact that most people just do not give a fuck about this; that’s why there’s no coverage in the (mainstream) media, why the only people who cares end up just leaving windows and why this kind of options are usually opt-out and they can actually afford to silently re-enable them cuz who’s gonna check anyways? Random people ranting on meme communities about my fancy malware?

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          Has it been proven to happen on Windows 11? Not that I can point to specifically. 11 hasn’t been in general use long enough to see a real pattern of behavior.

          I was a mixed Windows and Linux user through the full life cycle of the Cortana implementation. The number of times they changed or moved Cortana related settings through the years was just ridiculous. It finally came down to having to manually change registry settings to keep it from scanning your files and messing with basic local search, and even if you did that you had to make sure the registry values were still set after version updates because they would get unset without warning.

          I have no trust left for Microsoft, only suspicion.

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        Yeah, but it lies.

        No it doesn’t, at least not if the update isn’t already a month overdue

        But a future Windows update will reset them without informing the user.

        I’ve done 3 years worth of updates in one day cause I needed too. Pretty much everything was reset including registry edits, but the privacy toggles were one of the few things that stayed persistent. Maybe it’s a EU special feature (wouldn’t be the first), but at least here they won’t change back silently.

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        Do they do that? I’ve had my laptop for a while, and it’s never happened to me.

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          My windows install enjoys rebooting itself unexpectedly a lot. There is no chance I ever checked a box that said “update then reboot my computer at some time in the future”

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      And this update outside active hours will have a good chance to “fix” your privacy settings again. Without you noticing. One basically needs a tool that confirms that your privacy settings are still active. And then wait how long it takes Microsoft to declare that tool as “malware”.

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    This stuff affects the user experience too. I’ve been able to daily drive Linux at work for a few weeks now. Restarting and booting into windows, after being used to Linux on the same hardware, makes windows feel like the slow, cobbled together OS that you can get for free.

    I mean, we’re a Microsoft 365 company like many others, but even things like Teams and Outlook feel more responsive in Firefox in Linux than in the native apps on windows. Even video conferencing works great.

    This difference isn’t exactly new to me, and I’ve used Unix or Linux sporadically over the past couple decades. However, using it as my main work OS has really highlighted the differences. Hell, even the multi-monitor support is better!

    And this is with Mint Cinnamon installed, not some cutting edge or lean & fast distro.

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    Windows updates aren’t disruptive if you actually update now and then. It’s not even that often.

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      or…

      Upgrade to Enterprise (upgrading to enterprise will also remove ads in settings)

      in gpo editor:

      • Set updates to Manual
      • set the telemetry level to “Security” in group policy (iirc can also be called “Compliance”). This only works on Enterprise.
      • opt out of Microsoft accounts. This will force account creation to skip right to local accounts as if MS accounts were never a thing. This only works on Enterprise/Pro.
      • disable copilot and integrated bing search

      do a full reboot