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    Jesus was an anti-war, anti-capitalist, inclusivity-preaching socialist who gave free healthcare to the sick and free food to the hungry. Maybe they should crack open that book they always talk about.

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      But if they open that book and actually read and understand it, how will all the churches that warp that message make money and further spread their hatred and discrimination? Won’t someone please think of these super important churches and their totally-not-coincidentally wealthy pastors? (/s in case it wasn’t obvious)

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        Won’t someone please think of these super important churches and their totally-not-coincidentally wealthy pastors?

        For the record, a remarkably small percentage of pastors are actually wealthy. Lots of churches have a pretty poor financial outlook these days, and many pastors struggle.

        That’s not to say there aren’t rich assholes fleecing (pun intended) their flock, and obviously fuck televangelists, but it’s not the norm for a pastor to be wealthy.

        Edit: (Not disagreeing with the stuff about modern Christianity failing utterly to understand itself though.)

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        But if they open that book and actually read and understand it

        Then they’d risk not believing anymore, and a lot of Christians are aware of this on some level so they choose ignorance.

        Speaking as one, a lot of ex-Christian atheists started their journey by simply wanting to know more about their religion. Then somewhere along the way they realized it was getting harder to believe. But once you peel back that outer layer you can’t easily put it back.

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          As someone that was raised in the church, I totally understand. My parents really didn’t like my curiosity, which of course fostered further skepticism.

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      These days they are being taught that “meek” is a synonym for “strength”. They’ve been twisted around so much they could read Jesus’s words and take the exact opposite meaning.

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    “I believe he believes in God and our military men and women, in our country, in America,” said Tammy Houston of New Lexington, Ohio.

    It’s truly depressing how thoughtless these people are. Every one of those points is easily disputed by doing bit of research. But the sort of “research” they do is going down conspiracy rabbit holes, not reading reputable sources.

    From 2020 onward, I have nothing but contempt for a large swath of my fellow citizens. I used to simply disagree or dislike. But they’ve really revealed themselves to be absolute shitbags. Fucking monsters. And completely unable to think for themselves, to the detriments of everyone else.

    I remember reading about flat-earthers in 2018 and being upset about the idea. My then partner said I was over-reacting and it doesn’t affect me. “These people vote,” I said. How I’d love to run into her today and ask whether stupid conspiracy theories have had an effect on us.

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    Yeah… The president’s backers don’t share values with Jesus… But they also don’t share values with Trump… Trump just pretends to share their values in order to get what he wants…

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      and they’ve never actually heard anything from the new testament

      Except Revelation. Shithead churches tend to be very into Revelation

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      I more and more believe that religion should be treated like a mental illness.

      If you told people that you heard voices in your head, they’d put you on meds. If you tell them Jesus spoke to you they’ll put you in charge of a country.

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    standard con tactics.

    tell people the story they all want to hear.

    sad part is a lot of these people have no critical thinking skills.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Nobody voiced concern about Trump’s past conduct or his present indictments on criminal charges, including allegations that he tried to hide hush money payments to a porn actor during his 2016 campaign.

    But this is a new campaign, and that support has remained durable — even though Republican voters in the early primaries had several openly conservative Christian candidates to choose from, none of whom faced the legal troubles and misconduct allegations that Trump does.

    In the Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina Republican primary contests earlier this year, Trump won between 55% and 69% of white evangelical voters, according to AP VoteCast.

    Robert Jones, president of the Public Religion Research Institute and an author of books on white supremacy in American Christianity, said the strong evangelical support for Trump isn’t surprising.

    But Mark DeVine, a Southern Baptist pastor and seminary professor from Birmingham, Alabama, wrote in the online journal American Reformer that conservative Christians support Trump because “elected Democrats and Democrat-serving, unelected bureaucrats” have an “evil” agenda on issues ranging from abortion to gender to the border to pandemic lockdowns that kept churches closed.

    “Trumpers want to shield themselves, their children, their communities, and the nation they love from the woke, totalitarian onslaught now being unleashed upon them where they live, work, study, play, and worship,” he wrote.


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