• EatATaco@lemm.ee
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    You honestly believe that over a decade in prison is a good punishment for this type of accident? We are talking about it possibly resulting in kids being without their parents for the bulk of their childhood. Do you really think society is better off if that happens?

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      The punishment is first and formost for being terminally stupid. It is high time to stop cuddling the idiots. They broke the law, they should serve. Or do you think that law is just a joke?

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        Why do you feel people need to spend 10 years in jail for being stupid? And no I don’t think the law is a joke, I think this one is very unjust.

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      you and I both know they won’t spend a decade in the clink. IF they get sentenced then the state dept will go to work and these jackasses will pay some kind of fine.

      Don’t want to go to a jail in a foreign country? Don’t break their fucking laws. It’s really quite simple. And each and every one of these idiots admitted to their crime. Not a single one is innocent.

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        you and I both know they won’t spend a decade in the clin

        I would hope not, but I know nothing of the Turks and Caicos legal system, so it would be extremely presumptuous of me to claim I know that.

        IF they get sentenced then the state dept will go to work and these jackasses will pay some kind of fine.

        Either they do something now, or after conviction, I don’t particularly care.

        Don’t want to go to a jail in a foreign country? Don’t break their fucking laws. It’s really quite simple

        This is the whole point, it seems these were completely unintentional violations of their laws. The way you write this makes it sound like they just don’t care about the laws there.

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          unintentional

          people unintentionally break US laws all the time, yet our system still punishes them. and foreigners who visit and do the same too.

          it’s a law system, not a kindness and forgiveness system.

          The way you write this makes it sound like they just don’t care about the laws there.

          I think the Turks is fucking justified in being upset at the endless line of assholes who KEEP TRYING TO BRING AMMO into their country. It’s not an isolated incident.

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            people unintentionally break US laws all the time, yet our system still punishes them. and foreigners who visit and do the same too.

            Does it really need to be explained that two wrongs don’t make a right? It seems mad to me that one would say “these people should be punished because the us justice system does some things poorly.”

            I think the Turks is fucking justified in being upset at the endless line of assholes who KEEP TRYING TO BRING AMMO into their country. It’s not an isolated incident.

            They didn’t pass this law because people were unintentionally bringing tiny amounts of ammo into the country, they passed it because the law wasn’t strict enough to punish people smuggling in ammo for gangs. How does one actually convince themselves that they were actually targeting tourists with 10 years in prison because they accidentally bring ammo in the country? Lol

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              They didn’t pass this law because

              oh you were in the legislature when the laws were crafted?

              REALLY?

              I’m dubious.

              In fact, they didn’t pass a law that said “no ammo but one or two rounds is aight”. Not “No ammo but accidents happen we understand and will be merciful and lenient, unlike the US’s policies…”

              no. They’re a sovereign nation man, piss and moan, whine and bitch all you want, they get to make their rules and when you go there their rules get to apply to you. Stand up and be an adult. Fuck.

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                oh you were in the legislature when the laws were crafted?

                Lol were you in the legislature when they passed this law? You seemed to have no issue declaring the reason for it when it confirmed what you wanted to be true, and now hypocritically are attacking me for for actually knowing why the law exists.

                And no one is saying that they can’t make their laws as they like. You’ve so badly lost this argument, and you know it, that you’ve turned to blatant hypocrisy and to attacking strawmen. Again, to be clear, I’m arguing the law is clearly unjust and it would a travesty of justice that these people lose 10 years of their lives, and their children lose 10 years of their parents, because they made a mistake.

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                  And no one is saying that they can’t make their laws as they like. You’ve so badly lost this argument, and you know it, that you’ve turned to blatant hypocrisy and to attacking strawmen. Again, to be clear, I’m arguing the law is clearly unjust and it would a travesty of justice that these people lose 10 years of their lives, and their children lose 10 years of their parents, because they made a mistake.

                  cute gish gallop.

                  back in reality, you want to take chances with jail time, visit other countries and break their laws about ordinance, if you think this is unique to T&C you’d be in for a fun time.

                  Beginning to think you have tacos for brains. gonna block you so I don’t have to waste more time on your bullshit.