• kakes@sh.itjust.works
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      I don’t know about you, but I’m not about to be the guy to say that people are only greedy under capitalism.

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        No, but there’s a big difference between a societal paradigm that overrides natural human compassion with, well, the exact opposite and then incentivizes the entire population to participate, or a society in which greed is greed rather than some overarching be-all end-all goal.

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          I agree with this, that capitalism as a philosophy promotes greed as a virtue. No doubt this influences the people that don’t stop to question it - which I’m sure is a larger portion of the population than I would like to admit.

          However, I also think that greed is something that has always and will always exist in society. Consumerism is a modern invention, by virtue of industrialization allowing us to consume, but people have always wanted more money, more power, more things.

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            You think THAT’S patronizing? Then check THIS out:

            Capitalism incentivizes greed ≠ greed doesn’t exist outside of capitalism.

            pats on head and speaks very slowly

            Do you understand now or do you want me to get out the puppets?

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              I could explain my point, but I can tell you’re more interested in role-playing as a daycare worker, so I won’t interrupt your fun.

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                I could explain my point

                No need. There’s literally no possible meaning of “don’t say greed doesn’t exist outside of capitalism” (when nobody has claimed anything of the sort) that is a good point rather than a ridiculous strawman, so best skip it.