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    I just hope the moderator has a microphone kill switch so Trump can’t just yell over Biden’s answers and filibuster the whole thing as he has done in the past.

    Trump talked constantly through the 90-minute debate, sometimes incoherently and other times rattling off unfounded and baseless attacks against Democrat Joe Biden while refusing to let the moderator even ask questions.

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      According to the npr story I just heard Biden’s team did set “microphones open only when it’s the candidates turn to speak” as one of the terms. Also no live audience, only candidates and moderator in a studio.

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        No live audience gives me a little hope. Trump needs that feedback to know he’s not gone off the rails, as we saw in the 2020 debates.

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          That is a good point. Without an audience to clue him in that he is crossing a line, he may just get crazier than usual.

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      That’s one of the Biden requirements, when one person is speaking, the other microphone is killed.

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    Hey Biden, stop treating Trump like an opposing candidate and treat him like the insurrectionist that he is.

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      I think 1/4 to 1/2 of the American public disagrees.

      For what it’s worth, I don’t think we should ever speak his name or acknowledge his existence kinda like shunning and the Amish.

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        I put up social media filters to make sure I don’t ever see anything about the Amish or the content they post - I think it’s working and I haven’t had to fiddle with it in years.

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      I don’t understand your train of thought. There’s absolutely no way he shows up. This is only good for Biden.

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      The last time trump showed up to a debate he was hopped up on steroids and proceeded to have a near meltdown on national TV. There’s a very good argument to be made that that performance was a not insignificant part of why Trump lost in 2020.

      I for one cannot wait for Biden to goad him into an apoplexy of rage onstage with, hopefully, intervention by secret service. All Biden has to do is suggest trump isn’t very smart and hell spend the rest of the time fuming and making himself look like a moron.

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        I want biden hopped up on amphetamines and absolutely verbally slamming the shit out of trump for an hour. Full dark brandon. Nothing else is worth watching.

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          Steroids is the typical treatment for mild to moderate covid symptoms. Trump tested positive for covid three days before the debate. The fucker was feeling run down so he loaded up on steroids which made him more bonkers than usual and proceeded to spew covid all over everyone in Cleveland.

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            I don’t know that the type of steroid you treat a COVID infection with is the same type of steroid that makes you feel things

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    I really hope Joe just comes out and name calls like Trump always has.

    “Hey Sleepy Don, I heard you’ve been falling asleep in your felony trial in New York. Very low energy. Sad”

    Fight fire with fire baby

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    “Go change your diaper. I can smell your shit from here.”

    “Sorry, the bronzer market still hasn’t recovered in DC.”

    “You suck so bad at golf you have to cheat.”

    “Oh shut up.”

    Only way I’m actually watching is If Biden gets lippy. It this is going to be such a fucking shitshow Biden shouldn’t do it.

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      Yup constantly bring up his rapes and frauds he committed and still commits. Make fun of him for scamming his followers constantly. Bring up that he stole money from a cancer charity at least three times.

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        Even if Biden does (and he won’t because there’s some sort of moral high ground or something,)

        The people that need to hear it won’t. They only watch conservative outlets and will only get the 3-syllable-gotchas of Trump mocking Biden and call it a “win”.

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    Biden only recently said that he was happy to debate Trump, though he was non-committal on the format of such a debate, telling radio host Howard Stern, “I’m happy to debate him.”

    Im surprised Stern is still on the air, even more so that Biden would do an interview with him, and that everyone apparently ignored it even happening?

    It seems like it was mostly about his life and not any pressing issues America is facing, but here’s a link:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fz45sMb4js8

    It’s probably the most we’ll hear Biden talk. Even if most of it seems to be random fluff.

    I don’t know why he picked Stern as the venue, but he needs to be doing more of this. Getting out and doing interviews. Just preferably harder hitting questions than:

    Did you ever save someone’s life when you were a lifeguard?

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      The whole purpose of a Howard Stern interview is random fluff. It’s to make people like Joe Biden seem like he’s “one of us”. It’s not meant to promote a political agenda, or even have serious discussion on any given topic. Howard Stern would have been more likely to ask Biden about details of his and his wife’s sex life back in 1976 or something instead of a question with even mild political relevance. That’s Howard Stern. That’s what he does.

      I don’t know why he picked Stern as the venue, but he needs to be doing more of this. Getting out and doing interviews. Just preferably harder hitting questions than: Did you ever save someone’s life when you were a lifeguard?

      This is a reasonable expectation for if/when he goes on more serious interviews, but this is par for the course for Howard Stern, and he doesn’t even try to pretend otherwise.

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        I dunno, never listened to Stern.

        But you’re acting like these days he’s Good Morning America.

        Bill Clinton went on MTV and answered live questions then did a sax solo, that reached a shit ton of people in a demographic that gets Dems in office.

        I don’t even know what demographic subscribes to satellite radio these days, let along how many listen to Stern.

        Like I said tho an hour long interview is 100% what Biden should be doing, I’m just not sure why they picked Howard Stern in 2024.

        Maybe because Charlemagne just isn’t an option for Biden anymore?

        He kept asking Biden hard hitting political questions, and we seem to agree that when Biden talks politics it doesn’t go over well with voters.

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          I don’t even know what demographic subscribes to satellite radio these days, let along how many listen to Stern.

          Regarding how many people still listen to Stern, I obviously don’t know the exact numbers, but given that SiriusXM keeps renewing his contract which hovers around 9 figures annually, I’m going to guess that he still has an extremely large following and is probably one of the only reasons the vast majority of SiriusXM subscribers are even subscribed in the first place.

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            Oh yeah, he’s always been the main draw there.

            I’m not sure what his contract is like tho, they may have given him a ridiculous long contract to make the jump back in the day. So still paying him 2000s money even without that audience.

            Here’s to hoping this is just the start and Biden starts doing more appearances though.

            He needs to engage with voters if he wants to win. This is a step in the right direction at least.

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              I’m not sure what his contract is like tho, they may have given him a ridiculous long contract to make the jump back in the day. So still paying him 2000s money even without that audience.

              He just renewed it in I think 2020. And he’s still hovering around 100 million annually.

              And apparently both of us are vastly underestimating SiriusXM’s popularity; a quick google search shows that they pull in about $9 billion a year with a subscriber base of 34 million people. Apparently the pool of people who are too cool for AM/FM but can’t quite get the hang of Spotify is bigger than we may think.

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                I imagine a big draw is Stern and probably sports radio.

                Sirius XM has a long list of sports-talk and play-by-play stations. And the “listen to sports” and “browses Lemmy” venn diagram is, in fact, two entirely isolated circles.

                I don’t care much for sports but in my market I think all the sports stations are old AM radio. Satellite adds a ton of fidelity and may not have the regional blackouts TV has (that I don’t know about).

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                $265 each per year. That’s wild.

                My wife got a used car with a Sirius in it. She used it for the free trial but we don’t do talk radio so it seemed completely pointless.

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                  I used Sirius for a short time right around when Sirius and XM were merging. Never listened to a single talk station. Couldn’t have cared less. I cared about the uncensored, commercial free music with stations tailored to different genres. It was great, and IMO worth the money at the time.

                  Then came streaming. Once streaming came along, Sirius instantly became obsolete. Streaming offered me everything that Sirius had and then some. Since I didn’t need or care about talk radio, there was literally no need to keep my subscription going. I had thought that most others did the same thing. Apparently, I was wrong.

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        If she shows her feet then Ben Shapiro will likely watch. Maybe he’ll get to hear what real policies are as opposed to “roll back all environmental protections” and “be a dictator for a day”. That could change lives.

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    I see no meaningful information coming out of this and mostly think it is going to depend on the moderator and if they do their job and/or try to be “unbiased”. And trump will likely pull out for no apparent reason.

    That said: I still think it is a good idea. One of the “debates” last time REALLY “hurt” trump’s strongman schtick. I forget which one it as, but trump started another Hunter Biden attack. And Joe seemingly thought he was referring to Beau and tore into the orange shitstain. **And trump backed down. **

    It was bassically exactly what Democrats should be doing across the board. Show “decorum” because that is what “moderates” like. But the moment a line is crossed? You smack them down and make them acknowledge they ain’t shit.

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      The Trump voters won’t care who wins.
      The Biden voters will never change to vote Trump.
      “Undecided” voters aren’t choosing between Biden and Trump, they’re trying to choose between voting and not voting.

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    NO! FFS idiot DNC consultants are going to fuck this up again.

    From the same people that foisted decades of republican-lite candidates on us.

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      It’s been pretty obvious Trump is going to win again for at least six months now, but just like in 2016 the DNC marches us towards our mass graves.

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          What makes you think that? Trump voters love him. Between the economy and Israel’s actions, Biden voters are pretty damn disaffected at this point. It was close last time (he won the tipping point state by a mere 0.6%), so it doesn’t take too many people staying home to result in Trump winning.

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            If you think that Americans are affected enough by Gaza to vote for Trump you are flat out insane. He lost once already and there’s no way he’s gained voters. He’s accrued a multitude of criminal charges. You say " Trump voters love him. " And that’s true, but there aren’t many left. Media will have you believe it will be close, so that they can keep your eyes on their content.

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              No one is going to vote for Trump over Gaza. They’re just not gonna vote. And you must live in some kind of bubble if you think Trump supporters have changed their minds over the last 4 years. Some of them have since 2016. But if they supported him in 2020, they’re supporting him now. Trump doesn’t need anyone new to vote for him, just for a small percentage of people who showed up for the record turn out election in 2020 to not this time around.

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                  Do you happen to personally know a bunch of 2020 Trump voters who are voting Biden this time around? I have no idea where you’re getting this confidence from.

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          It is almost a certainty that Trump will lose the popular vote. It is highly likely the election will be extremely close still because of the electoral college. In a country of hundreds of millions, it only takes hundreds of thousands of voters in swing states to change the outcome, regardless of the majority.

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    I know that some people dislike watching old guys for 90 minutes, but you could always hit a Stones concert.

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    June 27th is Dementia Live!

    Who will shit themselves first?! The odds of a stoke on live television have never been higher! Witness the long anticipated rematch of two rich geriatric white men pretending to represent the concerns of ordinary people! What insane lie will they tell next?!

    The Conman and the War Criminal. You have to see it to believe it! This is definitely the last time this happens before one of them dies! Don’t miss out!

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    How long do they think the defense portion of his first trial will last? Will his defense be like “we will give you the list of our witnesses on Nov 10th, no sooner.” If not, could Trump be convicted before the debate?

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        Na, the prosecution started on April 15th, cut witnesses, and tried to go as fast as it could. Trump loves slow walking everything, so it will be longer than the prosecution, putting closing statements beyond June 15th.

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          According to reports I’ve seen recently, Trump has no defense witnesses. If that’s true, all that’s left is closing statements and jury instructions. There be more motions, sure, but merchan doesn’t seem likely to be generous with delays at this point.