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    Was this made to appeal to the people who are anti-genocide?

    If so, it’s a massive fail - you are basically admitting that Palestinian genocide is acceptable as long as you remain safe.

    And, of course… we already know that. We know what liberals are really all about.

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        “More genocide is good, actually!”

        If you stopped gaslighting people you might actually get more people to vote Biden with you come November… but not insulting the audience’s intelligence is a bridge too far for liberalism, I guess.

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          “Gaslighting is when you point out consequences of actions, and the more consequences you point out, the more gaslighting it is.”

          10/10, no notes.

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            Liberal, I’m trying to help you.

            If you want people to participate in this rigged game, you have to give them a better reason than merely horsetrading one repression for another.

            Perhaps you haven’t realized the implications of the collapse of the Zionist propaganda machine, so I’ll spell it out for you - liberalism and any credibility it has contrived over the decades is done. Shot. Holed below the waterline. And that includes it’s pseudo-democratic pretensions.

            Come November, your “lesser evilism” schtick will probably hit rock-bottom - it’s an inevitablility no matter how long you stonewall. Forewarned is forearmed, right?

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          I’m perfectly happy to say I think the people endorsing and committing genocide should be subject to the same violence they inflict on others.

          I’m glad you think minorities in America are endorsing and committing genocide, down to every man, woman, and child, and support their genocide in turn. Very noble of you!

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              The fascists aren’t going to care about your silly little word games when they drag you away you know.

              I know the fascists don’t care about words. That’s why you’re so loose with them.

              “Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”

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      Nobody claimed it was alright, unfortunately the lesser of two evils also includes genocide

      Maybe if we can get a better voting system we can finally vote for the people we actually want

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        Maybe if we can get a better voting system we can finally vote for the people we actually want

        And what if you can’t? Would you still pretend that it’s possible to vote fascism away?

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      Arguing against voting for Biden is a pro-genocide strategy because it increases the probability of more genocide. If your goal is to reduce or eliminate genocide as much as possible, and you are eligible to vote in a swing state during the 2024 US election, voting for Biden should be a part of your overall strategy. Nothing we can do can reasonably be expected to eliminate the possibility genocide. All that matters is what we do, the expected outcome of our actions, and the actual results. If your advocated action has no effect on your stated preferred world state or goal, you’re an idiot or a liar.

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        Arguing against voting for Biden is a pro-genocide strategy because it increases the probability of more genocide.

        Participating in US formal politics in any way whatsoever increases the probability of genocide - it always has, because there has never been a point in US history when it wasn’t genocidal.

        Your paltry attempt at minimizing this funadamental genocidal tendency is exactly that - paltry.

        Do you have anything else to offer?

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          Participating in US formal politics in any way whatsoever increases the probability of genocide

          Can you explain, do you think not participating is going to help?