If I say I think it’s pitbulls will I go up or down.
Down. wild is what you’re looking for. This was a pack of wild dogs. Maybe they were owned by someone but this is wild dog behavior. The owner should not only be charged with manslaughter and multiple assault and endangerment, but also some charges for having dogs in a way to do this.
No dog owner would condone any part of this and it’s irrelevant what breed the dogs were.
These were not wild dogs. They were owned. The breed of dog is important for understanding aggression in dogs. Denying that is literally sticking your head in the sand to avoid factual information you don’t want to hear.
Aggression in any dog breed is 100% on the human responsible for the dog.
Ban Pitts and then scratch your head a few years later when you hear about the German Shepherd attacks, ban the German Shepherds and then wipe the drool from your mouth while you read the article about the uptick in Rottweiler maulings the year after.
You can play wack-a-mole all you want, the rest of us will focus on achievable solutions.
Aggression in any dog breed is 100% on the human responsible for the dog.
Funny how 99% of the people responsible for dog attacks own pitbulls and not another breed of dog. It’s almost like this is a multifaceted issue that you’re being reductive about to fit your narrative.
You don’t have to be obtuse about “blame” here. If you own a dog, and it kills someone, it is your fault, sure. Not all breeds are the same though, since the vast majority of fatal dog attacks come from a single problematic breed that ought to be rightfully blamed for the danger they introduce to the community.
That blame should be used to restrict the right to own Pitbulls as a form of harm reduction. Just as a gun control advocate isn’t trying to absolve gun owners of responsibility for their actions when they lobby to regulate unnecessarily dangerous guns, a pitbull critic isn’t trying to absolve dog owners of responsibility for their dog’s actions when they lobby to regulate unnecessarily dangerous dog breeds. It’s all about minimizing human casualties.
If it’s a good idea to regulate Pitt bulls then it’s a good idea to regulate other dogs as well. Anything else is just playing wack-a-mole
Okay fine, Rottweilers too, the only other significant fatal attack risk.
#3 is German Shepherds, but Pit Bulls and Rottweilers are 18x more deadly, so probably not too much regulation needed for those good boys. They truly are most dangerous in the hands of bad owners, unlike the first 2 which are known for sudden catastrophic violence.
After that things aren’t really a problem outside of Pit Bull and Rottweiler mixes. Some smaller dogs are an even bigger bite risk, but basically a zero death risk so not really the urgency to address that any other way than case-by-case.
The data is pretty open and shut, no game of whack-a-mole is needed. We already know which dogs are lethally dangerous. Other countries around the world have solved this problem successfully. We’re not in uncharted territory, and we would save hundreds of lives annually by unconditionally banning Pit Bulls and Rottweilers.
Dog species don’t up their attack trends in response to other species falling behind. If pits are banned the attack rates of other species will remain about the same: much lower than pits.
I see, so all those tough guys that like to get lots of dogs for home protection. Never walk them. Never train them. Forget to feed them. They’re going to move on to the Rottweiler and that dog breed will luckily be uniquely suited to handle those circumstances and will turn out fine, not aggressive at all.
Excellent evaluation 👌
Cox said about a dozen dogs went after Williams’ three children…
No one needs to own a dozen dogs, outside of niche cases like service dog training programs. Certainly no one should have a dozen “pet” dogs. Clearly an irresponsible owner situation.
Afaik the max here is 6, if you have more, you need to be registered.
Anyways this incident must be the responsibility of the owner, he has not secured his dogs properly. Obviously they all need to be put down, and the owner should be tried for manslaughter IMO. What the law says however IDK.
Maybe some sort of causing death through negligence.Edit: just looked it up, the max is 4 adult dogs. More is considered a kennel and requires permission. (Denmark)
It’s such a shame that these could have been perfectly fine dogs if they had been properly cared for.
a) quite possibly true
could have been perfectly fine ____ if properly cared for b) This sentence could describe so many things.
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I bet irresponsible owners were involved.
Every pitbull owner is, by definition, irresponsible
Logic not your strong suit is it?
The breed should be extinguished. It serves no purpose other than dogfighting, mauling children, and wasting precious space in shelters.
Why don’t you personally go around and “exterminate” this one breed of dog? Carry out your personal dog-ocide, you fuckin hypocrite.
You stop breeding them, you don’t go around and kill dogs wtf is wrong with you.
I mean yeah they already said that were shitbull owners
I almost got mauled in the South. 100% irresponsible owners and nothing to do with the breed.
Something tells me it wasn’t a pomeranian
Why not both?
People:
Bloodhounds are renowned for their sense of smell due to intentional selective-breeding.
Greyhounds are renowned for their incredible speed and agility due to intentional selective-breeding.
Border Collies are renowned as the premium choice of herding dog due to intentional selective-breeding.
The exact same people:
Intentional selective-breeding has ZERO impact on pitbulls!!!
Sure, dude.
Edit: typo
So…Pitbulls were bred for a purpose, just like all other working dog breeds.
That doesn’t mean they’re all inherently dangerous dogs, but it does mean they carry significantly more risk then other breeds.
Unless you actually believe that they’re the only working breed not created by selectively breeding for specific hereditary behavioral characteristics?
Mind you, I actually like pitbulls, but that doesn’t mean I should disregard what I know about the breed itself and why they were originally created.
Also FYI that article is about personality, not breed specific characteristics.
Awww, adorable, you think we’re talking about their personalities and not their bone crushing jaws.
Almost all dogs have that ability. That’s what their molars are for… That’s a trait they retain from their wolf ancestors.
Small breed dogs already outnumber and outlive large breeds with a smaller environmental footprint.
But sure
“AlMoSt AlL”
Where are you getting these statistics?
The article is not conclusive. There are always going to be outliers in a case by case basis.
From the same article:
“Still, after decades of treating, showing, and judging countless breeds, AKC’s chief veterinary officer, Jerry Klein, disputes the study’s conclusions. “I think most dogs conform to the personality standard of their breed,” he says.”
ThEy ArE nAnNy DoGs
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Oh no, not golden retrievers again /s
I have a golden and she’s awesome and gentle. That said, I had heard because there’s so many goldens, they are the number one dog for total number of dog bites on children. I guess even a golden has their limits and a kid can find that limit unerringly.
Someone better be going away for manslaughter.
Officials did not say which breed of dog
If it was a pack of teacup chihuahuas that would be gnar.
People get mad if you don’t like dogs, but you never read stories about people getting mauled by cats.
Not domesticated cats, anyway.
Hear about the biguns’ mauling people all the time.
That’s because they kill in different ways. Cats are more like Rogues - you get a scratch one day and then later you’re dying a slow painful death of Cat Scratch Fever, or silently end your pregnancy with Toxoplasmosis.
Dogs on the other hand are more like Barbarians, they just brute force your death in person as fast as they can.
Edit: Parrots are Bards. That is all I will say.
No, parrots are BIRDS. Honest mistake.
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To be fair, that’s a big cat.
I know someone mauled by a cat and was there when it happened. It was quite dramatic. My friend had an old lady cat who was an absolute bitch, she was an interesting character if she liked you, would usually hiss and hide if she didn’t. Friend brought home his girlfriend, cat got jealous and attacked her while they (the couple ) were naked in bed. She was quite torn up, and I was in another room when it happened, was hearing loud music then suddenly screeching then screaming then this naked bloody woman comes running out of the bedroom.
So now you have at least one story.
I will say I am a cat person with dogs, much more than a dog person, but if housecats were as big as dogs, they would be more dangerous than dogs.
I think we should compare dogs and cats to good pets to own, rather than pretending the choices are “big powerful dog” and “environment destroyer 3000.”
After all, both are safe in theory, but irresponsible pet owners ruin it. You can’t expect everyone to correctly take care of certain dog breeds, you can’t expect the majority of cat owners to give up the “proud to roll coal” attitude towards their cat + the environment.
Let’s just have pet spiders or something.
How are cats bad for the environment? Sorry, first time I’ve ever heard someone claim this.
Cats that are allowed to go outside are an absolute menace to small wildlife. They hunt and kill to play, so no matter how well fed they are they will still do it, and they are quite good at it. This is why only indoors cats are allowed on some islands with a fragile ecosystem
Fair enough, but I would compare someone who owns a fat lazy cat to rollin coal assholes.
Yeah the comment you replied to is hyperbolic for sure, but even as a cat person I can see where they’re coming from. At the very least a lot of cat owners have a hard time recognizing the (iirc, scientifically proven) fact that the average outdoors cat kills a lot more small wildlife than they would ever require to survive, and by these numbers, it doesn’t take a ton of them to have a noticeable impact on an ecosystem, especially if you take into account the fact that they usually easily outnumber their natural predators since they are such a popular pet.
By roll coal types I mean people who feel indignation when told they’re doing something harmful to the environment. There’s usually a bit of eye rolling involved.
Maybe it’s just that they’re Parisians, rather than being cats.
(Sorry. Couldn’t resist.)
Don’t try to the parisians guys!
Parisians are different. Can’t blame anyone for having strong feelings about them.
Does this count? https://youtu.be/6MoDB7EhBqg?si=4YnM6Kv6O8wgOd-9
I bet Kristi Noem wouldn’t have stood for this.
There were 12 of these angry dogs, though. Not one trusting dog in a cinder pit. I don’t know if Noem would have been able to handle it even with a gun.
I wouldn’t mind seeing her try.
Y’all should just go ahead and lock this one.
It’s only gonna get worse from here.
It’d be a shame to offend a dog.
Dog owning is a serious responsibility that people are wildly reckless with.
It’s past time for the state to step in. The supply of dogs needs to be controlled, with all animals not intended for breeding being spade or neutered before being adopted.
The breeds of the dogs weren’t specified according to this article.
When will we hold owners responsible? We have started holding parents responsible for their kids actions we need to do the same for dogs.
Owners are always liable wtf are you talking about???
What a terrible way to go.
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Too bad it wasn’t a bear
