• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    Irrelevant

    Might want to consult the recent history of plastics and the per capita rate of fossil fuel consumption before and after.

    specifically the Great Chinese Famine.

    The Last Chinese Famine? The one right before Chinese industrial agriculture ended famines in the country ever since?

    My point has never been that only capitalist/non-capitalist countries do awful things

    Whatever policy you have or practice you perform, privatization makes the ecological harm worse.

    Once you decouple the cost of waste from the surplus of production, your industrial practices get worse.

    That means capitalism is directly leading to excess waste.

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      6 months ago

      Yes, the Great Chinese Famine, in which tens of millions of people starved to death due to botched agricultural policies under a communist government. A collectivist agricultural system, in which the farms were very much not “privatized.”

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        6 months ago

        due to botched agricultural policies

        The botched agricultural policies in China were the same adopted in Western states for decades.

        A collectivist agricultural system

        Are you seriously arguing the problem with China in 1959 was a lack of landlords?