• odium@programming.dev
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    8 months ago

    Standard behaviour isn’t an excuse for shitty practices. If you want the standard to become better, rebel against/boycott entities enforcing that standard.

    Once upon a time slavery was standard behaviour. Once upon a time company towns were standard behaviour. Once upon a time, absolute monarchies were standard behaviour. Things got better because people didn’t accept the standard and took a stand against it. Not because they dismissed it as the standard.

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        8 months ago

        I’m pointing out that “it’s fine because it’s the norm” isn’t a logical argument by showing how absurd that argument sounds when applied to other things.

        Logical arguments are sound even when you use them for other contexts.

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          When you use quotes, you’re supposed use words that words actually said by someone. Not paraphrase, not your interpretation. So, I suggest mastering the basics, before moving on logical and absurdism.

          And when you’ve done that, go and take a long hard stare in the mirror, and ask yourself if you think it’s clever or moral, to invoke slavery as a means to win an argument about a PSN account.

          You can grow from this.

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            8 months ago

            https://www.grammarly.com/blog/quotation-marks/ Quotation marks are for more than just direct quotes.

            Wasn’t trying to use slavery for an emotional appeal, but as an example of a standard that was overturned that I could think of off the top of my head. I realized that there could be some emotions invoked by the slavery example and intentionally tried to think of less emotionally charged examples for my next examples. I used company towns and absolute monarchies instead of the first few things I thought of which were: women’s rights, homophobia/transphobia, indentured servitude, apartheid, death sentences. Most famous standards, that everyone would know of, that have changed for the better, are emotionally charged.

            This argument chain has been going on for three days and I have better things to do in my life, so I will stop replying to this chain after this.

            Hope this can help you start thinking about how to make logical arguments