• hark@lemmy.world
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      8 months ago

      I wonder if it’s possible to get a post about technology coming out of China without a “hurr durr they r spy!!1” comment. I don’t see the same every time there’s an article on a new Intel processor, for example.

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      8 months ago

      Willing to bet money this was posted on hardware that actually does have backdoors to some 3 letter agency in the US, to much more personal consequence than any metaphorical Chinese government spyware

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        8 months ago

        Yeah that’s exactly the thing, people freak out so much about China having access to their data, but act much less concerned when it comes to their own government potentially having access to said data. One of these options has the ability to affect your life if they don’t like your data, and it isn’t China.

        (Not to get me wrong, I think no government should have access to one’s data, moreso pointing out the double standard)

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          8 months ago

          Yup agreed.

          China, like the US, hasn’t got the means nor the motive to track billions of people abroad; they both have a hard enough time keeping tabs on people domestically despite years of expanding their respective police states.

          Of course there’s always the propaganda and soft power stuff but again, every single state is doing this, but the insinuation is that Europe or the anglosphere in general are the only propaganda-free places on Earth!

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      8 months ago

      You mean you’re assuming that it will come with a backdoor in the hardware? Will that matter if the bootloader is FOSS?

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        8 months ago

        Like… the Intel ME?? And no BIOS seems to allow the switch to disable it, even though that was literally required after the NSA sued Intel?

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          Coreboot disables most of Intel ME on x86 except the parts required for essential functions. It certainty cripples external access to Intel ME.

          I believe it is a fair assumption that for embedded architectures like ARM and RISC-V, a FOSS bootloader will likely deal with state-sponsored backdoors if they haven’t been infiltrated themselves. This does not take into account baseband attack vectors because I simply don’t know much about wireless, but I’d imagine someone working on these projects likely has their eye on the funny stuff the NSA is likely to try here. RISC-V is FOSS, the NSA cannot legally require anybody to include a backdoor into the architecture itself.