Authorities described the student as a juvenile male but did not provide further identification or specifics pending an investigation
Wisconsin police shot and killed a student who officials say came to a local middle school with a gun. The student never got into the school, but as a precaution the entire district was put on a lockdown late Wednesday morning.
Students have since been reunited with their parents, some of whom waited up to five hours for their children to be dropped at a bus storage center in Mount Horeb, a village about 20 miles south-west of Madison, the state capital, according to WMTV 15 news.
No other students or staff were injured in the shooting, Josh Kaul, Wisconsin’s attorney general, said during a Wednesday news conference.
The kid just had a gun and didn’t shoot it or anything…? Was there no intent to do a “shooting”?
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/police-fatally-shoot-student-wisconsin-middle-school-responding-report-rcna150308
Not a ton more detail, but it sounds like a kid has a visible gun that some students reported seeing. Then they tried to enter the school, but the school had a video doorbell/door buzzer type setup. There were five or so shots in quick succession that must’ve included officers.
Have to wait on more info, but it sounds like at worst they failed to deescalate. At best they showed up and the kid started shooting and they returned fire.
No innocent kids died, so that’s a win in my book.
While it’s good news not to have a fresh school shooting, how hard is it to detain a middle schooler without murdering them…?
A tragedy of firearms is it makes children just as dangerous as anyone else. If the child was using the gun, they were the most dangerous person in the school.
The firearm is called the great equalizer for a reason.
This was still a school shooting. Justified or not, a child was still murdered.
You must be confused about the definition of murder.
Here’s a hint: if it’s a justified shooting, it’s not murder. Murder requires premeditation.
If the child shot or even aimed at police, the police shoot back. That’s how it works in this country.
Should be any country. Cops deserve to go home to their family too
Here is the question though. Does this rule apply to just them? Does it apply to others with respect to them?
If not, how do you deal with the police abusing the power this gives them?
If yes, how do you avoid constant bloodbaths of people shooting each other because they all had guns?
Seems like dishonest questions from you here. You responded as if I implied scenario that solves all problems ever in policing because you jumped right at it with some “well what about …” comments.
At the heart of what I am saying is cops have families and deserve safety like any other worker. I would expect anyone with a job who goes into dangerous situations are kept safe. Cops are unique in that their safety is threatened by other people. There are so many problems with police, right now this “on killing” attitude that infected police forces needs to be purged. Doesn’t negate what I said though.
You agreed and expanded, saying this is how it should work in every country and treated it as an issue of police safety, bringing up their families.
We can agree on this. Everyone worker has a right to be reasonably safe. There are definitely workers whose jobs regularly expose them to situations that can be dangerous.
I dispute the uniqueness claim. I would agree that their profession places them in situations where people may be dangerous more often than the average profession, for sure. They are not, however, unique in this. What’s unique to them is that they are issued a firearm, granted qualified immunity, treated as heroes by default, and dropped into a union often willing to sacrifice public safety as a “bargaining” tactic.
The current mentality resulting from police “warrior” training and support like you espouse is 1) Anyone and everyone could be a threat 2) An officer’s first duty is to themself and their own safety.
I think it is pretty obvious that obsessing over officer safety and exaggerating the danger they are in has led to the police violence that we see today. If an officer believes a civilian is dangerous and has a gun they follow the logic and kill them. They get pats on the back from their buddies and are defended vehemently by their supervisors and peers who often cover for any holes/inconsistencies in the story of why lethal force was necessary.
A cop doesn’t need to be an abusive, racist, hateful, violent psychopath to kill an innocent kid. They just need to be hyped up and afraid for their life. All it takes is for the kid to reach into their pocket for a cell phone.
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So all he did was illegally have a fire arm and he was executed for it and that’s a win in your book? Sick fuck
It’s not clear if possession of a firearm on school grounds was his only offense.
Maybe don’t jump to conclusions before all the facts are known.
Something else happened, kids bring guns to schools all the time and don’t get caught if they don’t flash them around. It’s gotten to the point where some schools have metal detectors at the entrances.
Shortly after Columbine, my school banned backpacks and if you brought a lunch box to school, they would want to search it.
That’s a wild thing to say
Depends how you think about it. Out in the more rural parts of America there’s gun safety education and target practice shooting where guns are provided to kids under supervision for extra circular activities and no one even questions it. Those are generally not the schools that make the news though. All provided within the public education sector and at schools.
Yes, if your an American your taxes may have supported teaching some country kid out in the Appalachian Mountains how to hunt with a gun, it’s not very uncommon. You have to take the good with the bad. How does the saying go " I would rather let 99 murderers go free than convict one innocent person".