From where I’m standing, Biden has more border detentions, let Covid rip, is funding a genocide, didn’t protect roe and is currently supporting a crackdown on protesters.
That’s just what popped into my head sitting here on the edge of a mop sink. Biden of course has a terrible record going back fifty years so maybe don’t invoke records if you wanna make a side by side comparison where genocide Joe comes out smelling less shitty.
It’s hard to place the two men on a continuum between best and worst when they both just look like bespoke types of bad.
I’m not the only person who sees them this way. Biden lost the youth and “progressive” (whatever that means) vote. Can he tack far enough right to win without them? I don’t know and I don’t care.
I haven’t been both sidesing. They’re not the same, they’re just both bad.
I’m sorry you don’t like me saying that, but truly, how am I supposed to describe the at best centrist democrat candidate who’s electoral strategy seems to be flanking his opponent on the right?
That’s a pretty creative cut there. Watch out with that kind of stuff, we’re posting on world and they hate someone breaking their precious Reddit debate rules.
I’m sorry that you don’t have any argument other than to accuse me of both sidesing.
Biden is actively implementing a bunch of the same policies as trump plus doing some stuff in a uniquely different but still bad way.
You say you don’t want fascism and that’s why you’ll do anything to avoid trump. You currently have fascism under Biden. When do you lose faith in the electoral system? I asked earlier but when do you stop trying to pick the best genocide and put all your energy behind actually fighting it?
I keep giving concrete examples of how they both exist on the far right side of any classification a person might deploy and you keep calling names and dismissing me.
Why not engage in good faith instead? Show how Biden is different, how he’s not an outdated at best right of center husk, unfit for the moment he’s clawed his way to the top of!
once again, i have over and over treated you with the kindness and courtesy all people deserve, entertained your arguments and engaged with you politely.
i even invited you several times to abandon supporting a genocidaire and throw your vote away with me, as a true expression of the world you want, as material support that confers real advantages to third parties and to send an irrefutable message to the democrats that they can’t just tack right and expect to always have your suport.
how can you expect me not to just call you names and dismiss your ideas but not hold yourself to the same standard?
where is even the pretense of seeing the left as your allies? that you share the same vision?
if you made those arguments before, click the little arrow next to your name in the top right, select “profile”, scroll to the posts and copy and paste them here. it shouldn’t take much editing to make them fit our context and discussion.
From where I’m standing, Biden has more border detentions, let Covid rip, is funding a genocide, didn’t protect roe and is currently supporting a crackdown on protesters.
That’s just what popped into my head sitting here on the edge of a mop sink. Biden of course has a terrible record going back fifty years so maybe don’t invoke records if you wanna make a side by side comparison where genocide Joe comes out smelling less shitty.
It’s hard to place the two men on a continuum between best and worst when they both just look like bespoke types of bad.
I’m not the only person who sees them this way. Biden lost the youth and “progressive” (whatever that means) vote. Can he tack far enough right to win without them? I don’t know and I don’t care.
Yes yes, I’m well acquainted with your both-sideserism.
I haven’t been both sidesing. They’re not the same, they’re just both bad.
I’m sorry you don’t like me saying that, but truly, how am I supposed to describe the at best centrist democrat candidate who’s electoral strategy seems to be flanking his opponent on the right?
They’re not just “both bad”, both-sideser.
That’s a pretty creative cut there. Watch out with that kind of stuff, we’re posting on world and they hate someone breaking their precious Reddit debate rules.
I’m sorry that you don’t have any argument other than to accuse me of both sidesing.
Biden is actively implementing a bunch of the same policies as trump plus doing some stuff in a uniquely different but still bad way.
You say you don’t want fascism and that’s why you’ll do anything to avoid trump. You currently have fascism under Biden. When do you lose faith in the electoral system? I asked earlier but when do you stop trying to pick the best genocide and put all your energy behind actually fighting it?
Again, if you think there’s not a massive difference between then, then you’ve had your head up your ass for 8 years.
I keep giving concrete examples of how they both exist on the far right side of any classification a person might deploy and you keep calling names and dismissing me.
Why not engage in good faith instead? Show how Biden is different, how he’s not an outdated at best right of center husk, unfit for the moment he’s clawed his way to the top of!
I have, here and elsewhere, but you both-sidesers just want to act smug. That’s all its about.
once again, i have over and over treated you with the kindness and courtesy all people deserve, entertained your arguments and engaged with you politely.
i even invited you several times to abandon supporting a genocidaire and throw your vote away with me, as a true expression of the world you want, as material support that confers real advantages to third parties and to send an irrefutable message to the democrats that they can’t just tack right and expect to always have your suport.
how can you expect me not to just call you names and dismiss your ideas but not hold yourself to the same standard?
where is even the pretense of seeing the left as your allies? that you share the same vision?
if you made those arguments before, click the little arrow next to your name in the top right, select “profile”, scroll to the posts and copy and paste them here. it shouldn’t take much editing to make them fit our context and discussion.