• masquenox@lemmy.ml
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    Sorry… just for the record - why was there a Russian war reporter in Ukraine again? Could it perhaps have anything to do with that war Russia caused in Ukraine? Someone please jog my memory for me.

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    The Tankies here are hilarious.

    The “reporter” worked for RIA, a state-owned news agency. He was a propagandist, not a reporter.

    There’s no evidence he was killed by cluster munitions beyond Russia’s statement. We’ve seen the accuracy of those from the beginning.

    This is a consequence of Russia’s own actions. They’re to blame for all of this.

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      I see one comment kind of supporting the Russian reporter, and only about the tone of the comments. That’s it. I really don’t see anyone in this comment section really supporting Russia here.

      I 100% agree that this is Russia’s own fault. Don’t put non-soldiers next to soldiers actively fighting in a war, because there’s a good chance they’ll be hit by enemy munitions.

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        There’s one commenter defending Russia. It’s more anti-Ukraine and implying Russia’s innocence (saying they COULD do the same when they already do so much worse).

        But it’s really just the one posting a bunch.

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      Even if he was killed by cluster bombs, so what? He’s a Russian on Ukraine soil. That doesn’t make him a combatant per she, but it doesn’t make him a innocent bystander either.

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        Regardless of the situation, a reporter mixed in with enemy combatants isn’t going to get special protections.

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      They found a copy of Sims 3 along with a letter signed “Illegible” near the body so it had to be the Ukrainians.

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    Imagine breaking a treaty, invading a country, starting a war, using cluster bombs and then getting angry at the other guy for defending his country with cluster bombs.

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    Aww poor babies. Where was their outrage when Ukrainian civilians were killed by Russia’s use of cluster bombs?

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    “You’re not allowed to attack us if we have a journalist with us. That’s the rules. Now don’t mind us while we use civilians as target practice.” - Russia

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    Reporters in Russia are propagandists. There is no press freedom in that country, so if you work as a reporter, you are not fulfilling the role of a journalist, but a state sanctioned propagandist.

    A Russian reporter in Ukraine might as well be a part of the armed forces.

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    These misanthropic comments are disgusting.

    CNN* is an obvious US propaganda channel and yet we were all outraged when WikiLeaks revealed that US helicopter pilots gunned down fucking journalists in Iraq.

    There are few rules in war.

    You do not attack hospitals, first aid responders and journalists, for fucks sake. I don’t give a fuck whose “side” this journalist belongs to. They are there to provide information of a battle field that would otherwise be lost.

    When Russia attacked a hospital some time in 2022 after the war started, I was disgusted.

    What has happened to you people. wtf.

    • this is an example. I am not trying to bring a “muh but US is doing propaganda too” bullshit take in here.
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      Rules in war? This entire war is already illegal. Russia shouldn’t even be in Ukraine in the first place. And yes, if you’re a frontline reporter, then it might happen that you end up in the crossfire, especially from artillery fire. Or do you think Ukraine saw some reporter through their drones and decided to target them? Stop being an apologist for Russia’s aggression.

      Edit: Also, Russia does not even have a free press, and with that they don’t actually have reporters, but propagandists.

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            Which part of their statement exactly are you claiming to be BS? The numbers or something else?

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              The entire pretext within the Donbass region that Russia was propagating. And you seem to misunderstand. Not me, but he himself called it BS during his little march towards Moscow, that it was all a lie. He should also know since he’s the one who owns the troll farms that spread this bullshit throughout the internet.

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                Sorry I think you’re right that I might be misunderstanding you. You mean the shelling of civilian centers, including with cluster munitions, by the Ukrainian armed forces was BS? That is a verifiable fact though. That’s why I thought you must be referring to something else.

                It was reported on by the UN Human Rights Council and the NYT back in 2014/2015, back when such stories could still be printed, not exactly famed Russian-biased propaganda outlets or questionable internet sources.

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                  Apologies, you aren’t misunderstanding me, you’re arguing in bad faith. Mea culpa and I will tag you accordingly so I don’t make the same mistake again.

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      AFAIK he was standing right next to an MRLS shooting at the Ukrainian forces, and the Ukrainian forces shot back.

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        And I’m talking about desensitized comments almost cheering for and ridiculing the death of a Russian journalist (or evil propagandis, which makes it a-ok). Journalists know what they’re signing up for when reporting out of war zones. It happens.

        You still don’t need to fucking be glib about it. That’s all. I’m out of this discussion. You’re all lost.

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    Russian telegram channels reported without proof the death may be attributed to the way they conduct a documentation.

    They group up with multiple other people, including soldiers, and stay as a group continuously. This is to control that nothing gets shown which should not be visible and have a tight control.

    Apart from the lacking proof I am sceptical this would be required as this news agency is under full Kremlin control, but rational reasoning isn’t required for this authoritarian government.

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    Chances are he was shot the back of the head with a Tokarev and they blamed the cluster bombs.