esp if you’re one of the devout ones who think they’ve been really good

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      buddhism has that too. if people were offing themselves in hopes of somehow reaching enlightenment thru killing, i’ve never heard of it. lol. the buddhist reasoning is that killing in general is bad but killing oneself is the worst of all because the one being that can choose to become enlightened (or at least try) and that you have control over is yourself. “so get crackin’” being the idea there.

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        My cult taught my 13 yo self that were I to take my own life, I would have to re-experience the life that led me to suicide in order for my soul to learn the lesson. But since I robbed another soul of the oppertunity to live as me, I’d have added bad karma and would reincarnate in (a non specified country in) africa. No more help was offered.

        I’ve beaten depression, but suffered losses in cognition due to its severity and length.

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      Didn’t the Bible state that suicide is grounds for not getting into heaven?

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        The bible considers it a sin, but sin doesn’t keep you out of heaven if you’re Christian, you basically just have to try and do better.

        The Catholic church decided it was a mortal sin, and because you didn’t have time to go to confession afterwards, you would go to hell.

        That’s a drastic oversimplification, but it is kind of the root of it.

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        I am aware of no such passage. Heaven didn’t occur to the people in that area until very late in the Bible writings. It is highly likely an introduction from the Greeks.

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          They definitely considered it a sin though? Even if not grounds for not getting into heaven due to it not existing to their knowledge.

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            Oh the theist consider it a sin but I am not aware of it being explicitly laid out as one in the Bible, could be wrong I admit.

            It makes sense when you think about it. You can’t have your slaves offing themselves.