Most are made up and silly.
The only one I’ve liked was in college I did a “communication style” one. Where it showed a bunch of different like emails, posts, and conversations and asked which you preferred to receive and which you were likely to write.
10 years later I still think about it, cause the goal of the work was to talk about how if you’re a certain communication style what to keep in mind with communicating with others. Like tips to not get frustrated with yellows who don’t care about facts when sending emails and how to write emails that don’t bore and frustrate people if you’re blue. (I’m blue green. I can sometimes write long emails)
I thought about it the other day cause a guy was complaining about all these emails that didn’t seem to say anything, they were just about feeling good, and he just wanted them to spit it out. Which corresponded to firey red getting mad at green.
So with that context, do you have any that actually had an impact on you?
The love language test in part because it was a great way to start a conversation about our romantic needs with my spouse.
Oh that makes a ton of sense!
Even if the categories are iffy, both people getting different results is probably enough to go “hey maybe we need to talk about what makes us feel loved”
I enjoy the D&D alignment chart.
It’s not like that’s a worse metric than MBTI
I should’ve just said my result is “Chaotic Good” at that corporation “team-building” personality test workshop
The ones for autism :•|
Most typological approaches to personality are BS. Take Meyers Briggs as an example. If you are 51% extroverted, you are an extrovert, supposedly having more in common with someone who scored 100% on that same metric than an “introvert” who scored 49% on that metric.
I don’t think Meyers Briggs claims that magnitude is irrelevant. Most tests I’ve done will tell you a score on each of the four axes.
MBTI most definitely takes magnitude into account. It’s bullshit for many other reasons, including not being reliably measurable.
Well yes they are.
That’s why I was asking if any stood out to you as helpful.
Yeah I didn’t have an answer but wanted to contribute to the conversation lol
I must be pretty solidly into my categories on MB as while I agree it is BS, it was also alarmingly accurate for me.
Ya not a fan of those ones, they need more room for public vs private introversion like I’d sooner walk on a stage naked and introduce myself than to try and mingle at a party
The one that confirmed I should talk to a psychiatrist about a possible ADHD diagnosis.
I’ve heard the love language test is pretty decent
MBTI is astrology for people who think they’re too smart for astrology
None really work, generally, but all try to make you think about the various factors involved and how other people might approach things differently from you, which is why they can be helpful:-).
So they’re helpful but they don’t work?
Most personality tests will not tell you anything about yourself that you didn’t already know, it will not give you any insights into the correct way to live your life or what is going to work for you.
However, it can help you frame things about yourself in a new light or to help you come to understand the way that you work inside of a larger social picture.
So they don’t work to tell you who you are, but they help you be who you can be.
The other responder already had some good points, but I will add: not so much directly but yeah, indirectly they can help you especially to relate to other people.
e.g.
let’s say that you are an extrovert(except this is Lemmy so uh…:-P) let’s say that you are an introvert, and wherever you fall on that spectrum, some extrovert sees a confused look on your face and just won’t shut the fuq up about the matter - they are relentless too, and you just want to walk away. THEY need to learn that when talking to an introvert, they need to shut the hell up, and allow the other person to digest what has already been said. Repetition, even using different words/scenarios/analogies/etc. makes the matter worse, not better.While YOU as the introvert here may benefit from knowing that they legit were trying to help - that’s how they are, when they get confused, they talk MORE, rather than less (insert Unix CLI pun here:-D). It’s just their natural bent, reinforced over time in however they were raised, and not necessarily a bad thing in and of itself, b/c when directed at another fellow extrovert it could be fantastic. This may give you the freedom to say SHUT UP AND LET ME THINK - which ironically the other person, being an extrovert, may likely love how you are thus being so open about your needs.
Either way, it’s good to know about this dynamic of how relationships work, across the varying spectrums of the different aspects of personality traits. Knowledge is Power - use it wisely:-).
That is just understanding the different types of personalities, personallity tests claim to detect what type of a personallity a person has, quite different.
The former is very useful, the latter is just plain crap
Usually, unless you happen to be really strong on some aspect. It’s like how Google will “find things” - sometimes it does, as it tries to sell crap:-D.
The gold standard in personality tests is the NEO PI-R.
I’d recommend the book Me Myself and Us by Dr. Brian Little. Or even just search YouTube for lectures he’s given.
All personallity tests are idiotic and unscientific.
Nope, they are all made up recruiting companies to try and justify their ridiculous fees.
Requiring personality tests is just admitting that you are socially incompetent.
Official Hogwarts House Sorting Quiz
Big 5 personality test
BIG. FIVE.
it’s the only one not named after anyone because it wasn’t just ONE person or duo who came up with it.
IT’S THE ONLY ONE SUPPORTED BY >100 INDEPENDENT STUDIES. All caps here bc it’s kinda important that these things be more than just one researcher reinventing astrology*
*COUGH meyers briggs pile of bullshit COUGH
The Big 5 is the only “personality” test used in actual scientific studies, if I recall correctly.
I really got a lot out of the Myres Briggs when I was younger. I know its not scientifically valid, and it’s stupid of folks take it too seriously, but it really helped young me understand that other people weren’t wrong/dumb/weird for approaching things differently. And it helped me understand some of the axis on which difference can lie in a helpful way.
I think in the post internet age people are very aware of different categories and identities, but growing up in the previous millenium it wasn’t something that we talked about much. The introvert / extrovert division is overblown and overly simplistic nowadays, but before people use to just criticise each other for being “too shy” or “too loud” like there was a “normal” way to be that everyone should get.
The big five is certainly more reliable and scientifically supported, but I never found that it helped me understand a coworker or friend better. Partly I think conscientiousness and neuroticism sound a little too value laden. People can happily self describe as “detail orientated” (Sensing) or “big picture types” (Intuitive) but nobody really wants to say “I’m closed-off and unconscientious”. And I think that’s why MB has been popular in business / organisation worlds, because it’s a useful way to get people discussing themselves and how they approach problems. It doesn’t matter that in reality my level of extraversion varies depending on the context, or I’m Judging in certain tasks but Perceiving in others.
Probably an attachment style test. Attachment theory is empirically valid, and knowing your attachment style can help you understand relationship patterns: communication, behaviors, emotional needs, etc.
After that, the love languages are a good start to a conversation. Essentially they can help you figure out how you prefer to be cared for, and how you tend to show that you care. The categories themselves are arbitrary, and they’re based on observations by a baptist minister who offered relationship counseling. He’s not a licensed mental health professional, and the love languages aren’t empirically based. One issue I have with his book is that he claims that men tend to have “physical touch” as their love language, and that women should have more sex with their husbands to help them feel loved.
The Big Five personality traits are the most valid of the popular personality tests, but I didn’t feel like they helped me understand myself more.
When these 2 books are combined, they can be profoundly helpful:
https://www.amazon.com/Modern-Enneagram-Discover-Who-You/dp/1939754070/
https://www.amazon.com/Take-Care-Your-Type-Enneagram-ebook/dp/B084VVB64H/
It’s the 2nd book which is the most-convincing ( because the improbable-recommendations it makes are sooo damn right, based on my last half-century of experience ),
but without the 1st book, the 2nd book has much less traction in one’s understanding.
2 books on one’s life-process-lopsidedness which can be equally-profound, are
https://www.amazon.com/Ayurvedic-Healing-Comprehensive-David-Frawley-ebook/dp/B003TO5EF0/
( do the ingredients-list experiment:
find your metabolism/“dosha”, & identify which set of ingredients would be most-harmful for you vs which would be most-pacifying for your health, & make a meal where each course is a pair of dishes, 1 maximally-aggravating, the other maximally-pacifying, & see which your own body prefers…
Mindblowingly eye-opening, that.
All the meals I’d eaten, before, had been a mixture of harming-my-health AND healing-me foods, an insane “strategy” that hadn’t been working!
Now, however, for all the years since I did the experiment, my health has been subtler & better a harmony.
Let the experiment-evidence decide for you, if your metabolism is one of the fundamental-metabolisms: then it should be clear-as-day. )
and
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0028UBEVO/
Again, both books are required for proper understanding.
The Yoga book shows you the kind of way you work-with your metabolism/“dosha”.
The ingredients-list in the “Ayurvedic Healing” book is sooo fundamental to my health that I simply don’t go grocery shopping without it, anymore.
This book is on the life-STAGE archetypes, like shattered-by-trauma
( the pair of “cards” “The Lightning Struck Tower” and whatever the crab-sifting-memories-in-the-lake-of-memories while the “wolf” and the “dog” try to get one off one’s true-path through aversions or desires )
or having to disconnect from the outer world, in order to go deep within oneself to decide something important, re one’s lifepath ( the choice/love card, card-6, iirc )
https://www.amazon.com/Wisdom-Tarot-Elisabeth-Haich-ebook/dp/B0716CHXJQ/
That one book I’d recommend getting the physical book, however: the archetype-stage illustrations are not included in the ebook.
The difference between it and ALL the other “tarot” books I’ve ever encountered, are…
- the profound understanding in Haich
- the uncontaminated archetype, ONLY ONE archetype per state
- the interwoven symbolism really is significant.
I’m not saying to just become a believer in its symbolisms, but I definitely am saying that if you ever want to understand someone’s sentience-stage, their life-state, you need to understand the stuff in that little profound book, and if any sudden change happens to someone, then that little book can help them know what they’re needing to focus on, to continue living unbroken, un derailed.
It’s an important psychology grounding.
Kegan & Lahey’s “Immunity to Change” is on the 3 unconscious-mind development stages of adult human life, and how our unconscious-mind “fights off” growing-up/adapting, to protect dysfunction/inertia.
It’s also important-as-hell for our lives.
Especially nowadays.
Daniel Kahneman’s “Thinking Fast & Slow” is on the imprint-reaction mind, which I call Kahneman1, & the considered-reasoning mind, Kahneman2, and how Kahneman1 mind fights to prevent the considered-reasoning mind from having any say in anything it feels it “owns”.
All ideology/prejudice imprint-reaction, left, right, religious, political, ALL of it, takes advantage of Kahneman1 mind, to try to own populations, & through them, countries/worlds.
It is the single most-important psychology book in our whole world, right now.
Communist “proletariat dictatorship” & right-wing “populist dictatorship” are both the same thing, fundamentally:
highjacking of the world for factional-supremacism, through Kahneman1 mind’s mechanisms.
I stop here, as of the thousands of books I’ve dug into, those are the most important ones for profound understanding.
I’m kind of a fan of the True Colors system but not because I “believe it”. More so that I just like that it makes you stop and consider how other people you’re interacting with might consider your behaviors and vice versa.
- green: independent thinkers (logic driven, efficient, analytical)
- gold: pragmatic planners (organized, responsible, respect rules and authority)
- orange: action-oriented (short term changes, adventurous, impulsive)
- blue: people-oriented (sympathetic, emotion driven, seeks harmony in groups)
Our exercise at work first required you to classify yourself, then everyone else voted to classify you. So you could get a picture of how you can see yourself compared to how others see you.
I think what helps the most for facilitating the conversation is that it groups traits that are similar under a single color, so you can quickly say “I’m gold, I think this other person is green”, then start diving into how one set of actions might be perceived by the other, etc. We didn’t take a personality test. We just went straight in with “here’s what I think I am”, so there’s no questionnaire pigeonholing you into something you might not identify with.
It helped me interact with my co-worker (and close friend outside of work), because he’s very impulse driven and constantly spitting out 200 line proof-of-concept things. But they’re messy and buggy and don’t have any safety rails and all kinds of other things. Where as I’m much more analytical, filing code changes to him for things like considering null inputs in fields, or to fix spelling mistakes (that one is more anal than analytical, but whatev).
By doing this classification exercise, we were able to see beyond “dude wtf are you doing you look at all this wrong stuff” and we’re able to consider how each of us worked was causing stress for the other. By realizing that and incorporating it to our work we were able to stop getting bogged down in arguments of really specific things and could stay focused on the general problem we were trying to solve.
My favorite part of the whole exercise when we did it at work was all of our managers said that they are Blue (considerate of others feelings, etc) where as everyone that reported to them said they were Gold (organized, respect authority), like ruthlessly Gold, and sometimes with a hint of Orange because they change focus of the team every time a new “issue” comes up before we’d finished resolving the open ones. It made me realize that management isn’t intentionally shitty. They’re just delusional to the point that they don’t even see how their actions are nothing like their intentions.
